Posted on 10/04/2009 1:51:32 PM PDT by Scythian
McCain's push to remake the party is all about locking the conservative party out, ensuring that a Rino is chosen during the primary's long before a conservative state gets a chance to vote. Sarah's book is selling through the roof unlike anything they've ever seen, she is threat the liberal gravy train (and I'm talking about the Republicans here not democrats). They will do everything the keep her out. McCain and others are already laying plans and taking actions to derail her campaign.
Sarah, if you are reading this you cannot save the Republican party, they are way too far gone. You also cannot win a Republican primary, it will be long over before your base gets to vote, you must start a new party, even if you lose the first time you will win a 2nd time, you are young, start now. If you're motivation is to take back the Republican party then I do not support you, it is a cancer on our nation, it cannot be saved.
I don’t know whether or not Lingle is more liberal or less liberal than Castle or Kirk, but I do know that she would be running in Hawaii, which is even more liberal than IL or DE. I would take a 25% that she’ll defeat Sen. Inouye and vote with us 40% of the time over the 5% chance (I’m being generous) that another HI Republican will defeat Inouye and maybe vote with us 75% of the time.
Sarah Palin, nor anyone else, is going to “save the republic.” The American society does not deserve a Sarah Palin, and Sarah Palin does not belong to a party, a movement, or anything else. Like all individuals, Sarah Palin belongs only to herself. If she chooses to go the political way, which I sincerely hope she won’t, for her own sake, it’s nobody else’s business how she chooses to do it.
I suspect Sarah is a true independent individualist, and will choose what is best for Sarah, which is the most moral thing she can do.
When American’s choose to be as independent as Sarah, then they will deserve someone like her to take the “lead.” At this moment, this country deserves what it has (Obama) and whatever it will get (in the GOP).
Hank
Yeah it’s more a like a <1% chance some other Hawaii Republican would beat that fossil.
But if the other was a conservative I’d support them in the primary, with the full knowledge that Lingle would crush them.
At this point, I’m more interested in getting Duke Aiona elected Governor (and Charles Djou elected to Abercrombie’s seat). He could be better for us in the long run, Lingle has been mediocre and gotten virtually nothing accomplished (and, as with so many of the other RINO Governors, all the gains that were being made to make a reasonable GOP minority presence have all but vanished). My real trouble with her has been what she’s been doing with respect to Zero’s birth certificate/long form. She’s been right there at the center of the storm. Why has she sat on it ?
“But if the other was a conservative I’d support them in the primary, with the full knowledge that Lingle would crush them.”
“Each race should be evaluated on a case by case basis.”
Very well-put. The constituancy in which the candidate is running to represent is also of immense importance. There’s a big difference between supporting a RINO in Delaware or Illinois and voting for a RINO in South Carolina or Utah.
“At this point, I’m more interested in getting Duke Aiona elected Governor (and Charles Djou elected to Abercrombie’s seat).”
I’m nothing if not inconsistent. ;) If Pataki runs against King I’d advocate voting for for Pataki if I thought King might actually beat him in the primary but if Pataki were clearly ahead I’d support a token conservative.
I thought it was a who’s more liberal list rather than in which order should they be targeted list. I’d put Lingle and Hawaii at the bottom of that list.
(But if a hypothetical conservative were to actually beat the popular Lingle in the primary I’d figure they’d be worth a shot in November. If she can’t beat some nobody she can’t beat the old rat)
In a target list in terms of priority I’d put Crist-Rubio at the top since that race is set and we have a good chance at both primary and GE victory and then Connecticut though I’m undecided on which candidate to support there.
I agree that Crist-Rubio should be our #1 priority when it comes ot GOP primaries.
BTW, I read that Mike Castle has called a press conference for noon today. Maybe he’ll announce that he’s running for the Senate.
Castle running for the Senate would give us an excellent opportunity to have a moderate-to-conservative Republican (DE is too liberal for us to hope for a Steve King or Mike Pence to beat a first-tier Democrat) win his open at-large House seat.
It also gives un a dilemma regarding the Senate race, because unfortunately Castle is the “Republican” with the best chance of defeating the Spawn of Biden. While I detest Castle, and acknowledge that he’s a RINO whose voting record in the Senate would be liberal 75% of the time, and think that he could well switch to the Democrats during his Senate stay, we must also keep in mind that if Beau Biden gets elected to the Senate in 2010 he might still be there 36 years from now (as was the case for his father).
Castle is liberal, but he’s 70 years old, and we can knock him out once we have some sort of moderate-to-conservative farm team in place (hopefully in 2014 with a two-term Congressman).
So my inclination would be to ignore the DE Senate race and let Castle take on Beau Biden, and save our effort for the DE House race and for the more important Senate races in other states.
It’s official: Castle is running for the Senate.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-10-06-castle-del-senate_N.htm
I can’t endorse him in good conscience, but it’s not like I can stop him, either. I think he epitomizes what is wrong with the RINO establishment, thoroughly out of touch and scarcely different, if not outright identical, to the Dems. When I saw the footage from a Town Hall event recently, it really showed the contempt he has for his constituents, especially Conservatives. Of course, Beau Biden might opt instead to go for the easier open House seat, especially given the polling data showing him losing to Castle. He can merely wait out the 6 years until he retires.
If Castle is elected to the Senate, he would have to defend his seat in 2014 (Biden was reelected in 2008). I would be surprised if Castle retired that quickly (but maybe we would have a strong candidate by then that could beat him in the primary).
I don’t think that Beau Biden will switch to the House race, particularly since Democrat John Carney (Lt. Gov. from 2001-2009) announced a while back and has raised quite a bit of money already.
It also presumes he lives until 2014 (I recall reading he also has had health problems), but possibly he might serve 2 terms (to take him to 2021, when he’d be short of 82, a little older than Bill Roth was when Tom Carper beat him in ‘00 at 79). But I can’t see who would upend him in the primary by then when we don’t even have but one statewide official besides him (and isn’t likely to run for anything else, and might end up falling before long like all our other prior officials).
Even if Biden opts not to go for it, or for the House, the Dems will probably pick up Castle’s seat. I don’t know what Republican of note will run for it. This will be the first time since ‘90 they will have won the seat.
If we don’t have someone that can win the House seat, we certainly wouldn’t have anyone (other than Castle) that can win the Senate seat. I think that we need to think positively and look for a candidate for the House race and, if he or she can win, we’d have someone that could run for the Senate in 2014 or 2020. But if we find a solid candidate and send him to run against Castle in the Senate primary, he or she would likely lose to Castle and we wouldn’t get the House seat either.
The key is the House race. If Mike Castle wins, he’s likely to retire after one term (when he’ll be 77). So conservatives need to concentrate on the House race to succeed him. Hopefully, we can find a candidate who is both conservative and electable and groom him or her to be Castle’s successor. As for Castle himself, I suppose we can hold our noses and support him, as he’d give more power to conservatives even if he doesn’t always vote with them (his ACU is actually 52%, nothing great but not another Lowell Weicker).
His ACU ratings of late have been in Weicker territory (28 and 20).
Remember, it’s a 4-year term, not a 6-year term.
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