Posted on 09/25/2009 6:59:18 AM PDT by safetysign
Indonesia Left to Right:
Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro
This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. Name: Barry Soetoro
Religion: ..... Islam
Nationality: ..... Indonesian
How did little INDONESIAN, Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become president?
Someone who tells lies is a L __ __ r?
Hell, we should start a thread listing all the reasons that support the contention that he's a Muslim.
oviously birthplace. Which doesn’t mean it’s true.
And while you are figuring out how Sr got that marriage application...tell me the translation for:’
Warga Negara Indonesia
HINT..citizen
Indonesian law is irrelevant because Indonesian law does not override U.S. law. A person born in this country is a natural-born citizen from the moment of birth. The only way a natural born citizen can lose their citizenship is if they relinquish it themselves. It cannot be taken away from them and cannot be relinquished on their behalf by anyone, including parents. It cannot be forfited by any foreign law. And you can only relinquish it as an adult, in writing, by performing an expatriating act. You can't accidentally relinquish it.
I found that for a woman it can be incredibly easy to change one’s name in a quasi-legal way without even going to the courts.
I've never seen a copy of the marriage certificate so I have no idea what lies they're supposed to have told.
goldi asked: When did he renounce his Indonesian citizenship and become an American citizen?
You responded: He was born in Hawaii so he was an American citizen all along.
Don't spin your response to turn it into something innocent.
You have made the claim repeatedly here on FR and you were not using the document as cover.
Let me say this again for you so you can understand --
American...citizen...does...not...automatically...translate...to NATURAL...BORN...CITIZEN.
OK, if that is the God's honest truth then that must mean that the information on Line 2 is the God's honest truth as well, right?
LOLOL...just how do you go about getting married in Hawaii when you are already married.
Then...you...can...no...doubt...point...to...the...clause...in...the...Constitution...or...the...federal...law...that...says...that...right?
Until I saw this I was 50/50 on the location of Obama’s birth. Now I am 95% percent sure he was born in Hawaii. It says on this document he was born in Honolulu on 4/8/61 (August 4 1961). Why would who ever filled this out, lie about his birth place but admit that he was a muslim and his nationality was Indonesian? It doesn’t make sense.
One does not need to give up a childs US citizenship to gain Indonesian citizenship.
Officially, they don’t recognize your dual citizenship once you’re over 18, but you may still retain it.
Unofficially, they’re not really hot on checking or enforcing the issue.
Well, if you can point me to a copy of the marriage certificate then maybe I could look and venture a guess. Where is it?
NO, you can tell the truth in one section and not in another. Such as with a fraudulent info to get a marriage license.
Or you can lie in all sections.
It is quite possible that they lied in the citizenship section just to get him in the school.
He could have been an African citizen.
Or he could have been a US citizen born in Africa because his mother wasn’t legally wed.
Funny thing about that..even Obama says the info surrounding the marriage is not quite right ..and was afraid to search into it.
So tell me again, how do you go about getting married in Hawaii when you are already married?
Or he could have been a U.S. citizen born in Hawaii?
How did little INDONESIAN, Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become president?
An application to a school claiming a nationality isn't a renunciation of his citizenship. This does not even prove that his parents really got him an Indonesian citizenship. Parents have been know to lie about residency and citizenship to get their kids into a school they want.
That school record is an interesting page but not earth shattering. It's just one more straw on the camel's back. The big bale is hidden (or not) in Honolulu's birth records.
Yes, that is a possibility. Now tell me about what kind of lie was necessary to get married in Hawaii....
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/marriagelicense.pdf
So how do you know they got married in Hawaii when you haven't seen a marriage certificate?
Ick. Are you proposing to me?
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