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State prepares to challenge U.S. gun laws [20 others - secession to follow?]
WND ^ | August 25, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 08/27/2009 12:34:31 AM PDT by Ron C.

'This is an issue where the federal government has no business'

Montana statehouse

Supporters of a first-of-a-kind law in Montana that declared weapons or ammunition made and kept in the state were exempt from federal rules are preparing for a court challenge to the federal government's insistence it will regulate those items.

The Montana Shooting Sports Association and the Second Amendment Foundation have formed a strategic alliance with plans to litigate over the Montana Firearms Freedom Act.

The bill was passed by the 2009 Montana Legislature and signed into law by Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; bang; banglist; freedom; guns; rights; statesrights
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To: A Navy Vet
And where will our military be while the UN invades?

Iraq, Afganistan, S. Korea, Germany, Japan...

How many combat divisions are still stationed in CONUS? How many NG units are not already deployed overseas and are available and able to respond? Ever wonder why Zero has not brought the troops home as promised during the campaign?

As luck will have it, things may be developing too quickly for President Zero's proposed National Thug Corps to be organized against the people and, as another poster pointed out, even Japan at the height of her power hesitated to send troops ashore here. I think UN "Peace keepers" would be equally reticent.

Personally, I know what I would do if I saw blue helmets in my town.

121 posted on 08/27/2009 9:13:16 AM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet)
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To: occamrzr06
My dad used to tell me, “Put shit in one hand and hope in the other and see which one fills up first”!

Are you my brother?

122 posted on 08/27/2009 9:16:28 AM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet)
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To: Ron C.

here’s an easier way to do this

tell the north east to leave the union and those radical left wing nuts can stay up there in their liberal utopia, we’ll even transport the left over left wing nuts from down here to up there.

course I expect the Dems and the radical left nuts form move on, KOS, and huff post to go against this .

They would be out of pocket for their spending because we will not be paying their taxes any more.


123 posted on 08/27/2009 9:17:09 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Ron C.
Ten years ago this kind of talk began in liberal universities... how it would be best to break this nation up into five - a minimum of three smaller nations.

200 years ago they spoke of independent states. I wonder where that concept went.

124 posted on 08/27/2009 9:30:21 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: dynachrome
Thanks dynachrome!

I didn't find much new broken ground in this article re this legislation since we've covered it on numerous other threads but I have added "our" keywords to the list so that the tag will be there for those wishing to follow along.

FWIW, it pains me to see the States having to resort to such extraordinary measures, particularly when they may in fact be weakening their AND our position as it relates to addlebrained decisions by the SCOTUS and how they have applied the "commerce clause". I could be wrong but it appears to me the States pursuing this tack are essentially conceding the ground set by "precedent" that the federales in fact have the authority to regulate anything remotely construed to be interstate commerce. I just hope better minds than mine have a better view of the bigger picture.

125 posted on 08/27/2009 9:44:36 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you have!)
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To: Ron C.

I don’t know if secession would lead to the best results. If the feds would just stand down and get back in their (admittedly very small) Constitutional box, we could all live together.


126 posted on 08/27/2009 9:52:12 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: dools007

Exactly, who ya gonna believe, the reliable MSM or your own lying eyes?


127 posted on 08/27/2009 9:58:41 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: tired&retired

Just be careful folks. The Rats will run for high ground as the ship is sinking. (Many of the lib areas are coastal cities with a low elevation.)


128 posted on 08/27/2009 9:59:09 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: nina0113
Our military won't but UN troops from, say, Pakistan? No problem.

It would be open season on those troops.

129 posted on 08/27/2009 10:10:03 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (The way to destroy a countercultural movement is to have white people start liking it.)
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To: Ron C.
In addition, most of these state will be among those that separate from the USA and become part of a separate Conservative nation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Where do I apply for a green card? I need to immigrate from Vermont.

I hope you are right!

130 posted on 08/27/2009 10:12:01 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

Them what’ve been watching Glen Beck this week will have already noticed that it was the left who started the Revolution...Now if we can only find our Scarlet Pimpernel.


131 posted on 08/27/2009 10:23:24 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: Ron C.
I'm not sure these states SHOULD challenge the Federal Government's assertion that its laws apply within the states involved, at least in the Federal Courts.

The Federal Courts will NOT concede authority and law to the States. They have ignored the 10th Amendment for decades/

These states should form a political compact and refuse to enforce or allow to be enforced within their jurisdictions laws which they know abridge the Constitution.

By taking their case to the Federal Courts, they are doing the same thing Bush II did when he fought in the Federal Courts, the issue of Federal Court authority in the treatment of military prisoners. He recognized their authority on the subject and lost.

132 posted on 08/27/2009 10:24:30 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Centurion2000; Travis McGee
It would be open season on those troops.

What about at five-for-one reprisals? I'm about halfway through Domestic Enemies and that's how the gov't broke the Tennessee resistance.

133 posted on 08/27/2009 10:25:49 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: mrmeyer

Obviously a federal court finding, if against the states, would be moot since it’s a branch of one of the parties to the fight.


134 posted on 08/27/2009 10:50:18 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Beelzebubba
Don’t ever think for a minute that the potential for evil does not reside in every people, and in the heart of every man.

Great quote.
135 posted on 08/27/2009 11:07:49 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: A Navy Vet

What would happen? Civil War II?
I believe not. It’s a different time; different thinking; different feelings; different politics.

Different weaponry...


136 posted on 08/27/2009 11:12:43 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: 03A3

Look at it this way...

They can only throw those clay pots so far...


137 posted on 08/27/2009 11:15:58 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Mechanicos

They can get around this just like the did with the ‘war on drugs’. do they mine the metal to make the guns locally? if not, ‘interstate commerce’ and congress regulates it.


138 posted on 08/27/2009 11:34:18 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: ctdonath2

except in this case the president would be on the supreme court’s side..


139 posted on 08/27/2009 11:34:59 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Ron C.

Judge Napolitano said on Fox several weeks ago that this is a great idea, but that unless lots of states follow suit, this might die at the appellate level in the federal courts system.


140 posted on 08/27/2009 11:40:32 AM PDT by Stayfree
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