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When controversy isn't debatable (Pro-Birther column in the Chicago Tribune?)
The Chicago Tribune ^ | August 11, 2009 | Dennis Byrne

Posted on 08/13/2009 11:35:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

So how are we supposed to know that a candidate for U.S. president meets all the qualifications laid out by the Constitution?

Do we leave it in the hands of the verbal free-for-all that passes as a debate over whether President Barack Obama actually was born in America? Or will Congress create an official path for presidential and congressional candidates to prove their qualifications?

For all the sneering denunciations heaped on the "birthers" -- those who feel compelled to prove that Obama wasn't born in the United States and thus is not eligible to be president -- they have not touched on a critically important question: How do we know if someone, anyone is qualified: Is the candidate at least 35 years old, a resident in the U.S. for 14 years and a natural-born citizen? Who officially confirms that a member of the House of Representatives is at least 25 years old, has been a citizen for seven years and lives in the state from which he is elected? Or that a Senate candidate is at least a 30-year-old, nine-year citizen and lives in the state he represents?

None of the wiseacres who have been laying it on the birthers seems interested in the question, choosing instead to use the debate as another opportunity to jeer and taunt the "wing nuts," "Obama haters," "right-wing zealots" and various species of alleged goofballs who have raised the question about the president.

For some reason, the attacks recently have intensified in frequency and intensity as liberal and mainstream commentators are having fun dishing it out. I've started to read FactCheck.org and other similar debunkers, and the more I read, the more convinced I've become that this tearing at the seams is not good for the commonweal.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizenship; colb; eligibility; ineligible; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; posey; scotus; usurper
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The truth will out.
1 posted on 08/13/2009 11:35:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why don’t they just ask Obama to produce the documents and be done with it?

They are afraid of the answer, that’s why.


2 posted on 08/13/2009 11:39:34 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: All

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Dr. Orly storms Israel:
Go Lady Liberty!!

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

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Canada Free Press
JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

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But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

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Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

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DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials!

Dr. Orly’s official website:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
Or Dr. Orly’s blog:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

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3 posted on 08/13/2009 11:41:30 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We have a saying in my biz.... “In God we trust, all others bring data.”


4 posted on 08/13/2009 11:42:04 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- follow the money and you'll find truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This whole thing will be really fun in 2011 when campaigning kicks off for 2012.


5 posted on 08/13/2009 11:44:07 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( MARSOC DAD)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

It’s a lose-lose situation for Obama. There is evidence out there that Obama received a college scholarship (or two) reserved for foreign students. If he is foreign he should not be President. If he is a citizen then he is guilty of fraud and theft for falsely taking a scholarship away from a qualified foreigner. It would be check-mate.


6 posted on 08/13/2009 11:47:26 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The system contemplated by the Founders was that the Presidential electors would satisfy themselves of the candidate’s eligibility before casting their votes. Obviously, a majority of the electors were so satisifed in the 2008 election. End of debate.


9 posted on 08/13/2009 11:58:05 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Why don’t they just ask Obama to produce the documents and be done with it? They are afraid of the answer, that’s why.

Exactly. If he had to present the real documents [not the forged ones], then his entire agenda of Cap and Thrash, Health Care Deform, etc, would come crashing down to earth.

10 posted on 08/13/2009 12:07:09 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: steve-b

End of debate??? Not a chance.

This will continue until he is proven legit or proven a usurper. Either way, only solid proof will end this.


11 posted on 08/13/2009 12:10:10 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( I'm voting for Piper Palin's mommy ))))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"birthers" -- those who feel compelled to prove that Obama wasn't born in the United States

Ugh...No one seems to get this right...Say it with me: Is Obama a "Natural Born Citizen, Natural Born Citizen, Natural Born Citizen...?"

12 posted on 08/13/2009 12:10:30 PM PDT by frogjerk (tagline pulled for verification)
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To: frogjerk

Besides, birthers don’t feel compelled to prove anything. We want Obama to be the one who proves his eligibility. The onus is on the guy who certified in 50 states that he’s eligible. Show us the truth ZERO!


13 posted on 08/13/2009 12:14:17 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( I'm voting for Piper Palin's mommy ))))
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To: Recon Dad

Do you really think their will be an election in 2012?


14 posted on 08/13/2009 12:23:05 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: Recon Dad

Do you really think their will be an election in 2012?


15 posted on 08/13/2009 12:23:09 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: Uncle Chip

Not just his grotesque Marxist/Socialist programs would come crashing down but so would he. IF this question is NOT addressed by the SCOYUS and proof be required then America can bend over and kiss her butt goodbye as she knows it. The man is the GREAT DESTROYER. Oh he has help, Pelosi, Reid, Emmanuel and many many more including that Pansy Graham who voted that damn Sotomayor out of Committee. I will never forgive that ONE Republican slime ball who provided the one and only pubbie vote that got this beatch appointed. Shame on him and all the others who have supported this crap and all the other crap that is coming from their FAUX President (Thug-in-Chief). It amazes me, absolutely amazes me that folks think that they can Un-do this travesty in the next election. Acorn has that taken care of right now. Very disturbing and very sad situation. An uprising of the magnitude it needs to be will be too late. I forget which despot said it but he said this: “If you want to Socialize a country, FIRST Socialize Healthcare”!! CO


16 posted on 08/13/2009 12:26:25 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: hiho hiho

Keep the faith.


17 posted on 08/13/2009 12:26:38 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( MARSOC DAD)
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To: steve-b
Obviously, a majority of the electors were so satisifed in the 2008 election. End of debate.
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Do the electors even *know* about the USC requirements and how they're satisfied? What does this imply for the future? The Natural-born Citizen clause was written to prevent foreign allegiance. It's still important.

18 posted on 08/13/2009 12:41:11 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: Inwoodian

It’s a lose-lose situation for Obama. There is evidence out there that Obama received a college scholarship (or two) reserved for foreign students. If he is foreign he should not be President. If he is a citizen then he is guilty of fraud and theft for falsely taking a scholarship away from a qualified foreigner. It would be check-mate.
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This is a plausible check-mate gate for bammy. I’d like for it to be true. What evidence is out there - and please tell me that Taitz and Berg and that Andy Martin aren’t driving it to the courthouse, and I’ll believe ya...:)


19 posted on 08/13/2009 12:47:59 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: Two Kids' Dad
Besides, birthers don’t feel compelled to prove anything. We want Obama to be the one who proves his eligibility. The onus is on the guy who certified in 50 states that he’s eligible.

Is the onus on Barack Obama or on the state officials who certified Barack Obama to be on those 50 states' ballots without any confirmation of his eligibility?

It seems to me that they were the ones who should have demanded evidence to prove he qualified before they ever put his names in front of the people whose interests they've taken an oath to protect.

I'm thinking maybe the birthers are going after the wrong people to have their case heard. If I were a birther, I'd file an FOIA (or state equivalent) request to see what evidence my SoS used to confirm this - or any other - candidate's eligibility.

At the very least, it could help get a movement started to prevent controversy about future candidates.

20 posted on 08/13/2009 1:09:57 PM PDT by leilani
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