Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
remember Justice Alito recused himself. When on what case?
Thanks, hoosiermama. Yes, I know brainstorming pretty darn well.
I enjoy the hunt, too, the solving of mysteries. I am editing an academic paper that requires just those skills — trying to figure out what the author is trying to say and helping her say it clearly. This article’s a real whopper, I tell ‘ya.
I appreciate your post. I’ve learned a lot in the last year, though I had a smattering of knowledge before. I’d never gotten into the NBC issue at all, though.
So maybe it’s my own complex that keeps me on this thread... Yeah, I know there are other threads. Why am I on this one? Because my heart skipped a beat when I thought there might really be a Kenyan BC. LOL. Now I am in my “convert” mode, and maybe I will detach.
Thanks, again.
Why didn't Bush stand up to Soros. Why allow this pervert Sorros to destroy America leave US vulnerable to foreign influences. Where was the stand up.. He could have outed this info- He could have said (in some kind of way ) to America hey there's an enemy looking to destroy US this is whats going on..Bush had so much power. Look what he did to Hussein.. Kennedy subtlely did much to point out Communist threats in appeals to America.
Also, I don't get the martial law threat, to congress, with the hurry up and pass the economic package, while there would be no laws against outlaws that created it.
Similarly, now we have Obuma with his hurry up health law, and he demands no conversation and no opposition against it.
I see definite pattern..
You keep saying that “something” is fishy. And then slam everyone who thinks that “something” most likely involves his eligibility; most likely his birthplace not being Honolulu, HI. Most people (from what I’ve been reading) do not state categorically that they know for sure and certain that he was NOT born in HI, and/or that he WAS born in Mombasa, Kenya.
But it sure looks as though that could very well be the case. What other “fishy” thing could it be? Other than a different father? But there is so much - two hospitals listed, the COLB having problems, the HI fishuls saying strange things, 0bama mentioning his BC a couple of times in the books that “he” wrote, and so on.
You also state that for people to “believe” something without evidence is stupid. Well, 0bama has the evidence. Too bad he won’t release it. And since he and his team have done a pretty good job of hiding/scrubbing/sealing almost every paper record from his entire life, it isn’t very easy to get “evidence”. That in itself is damning.
For some mysterious reason, that doesn’t seem to bother some people.
From the meeting of president-elect and the swearing in ceremony....
If you hate the term “birthers”, why did you use it? Perjoratively?
(Rhetorical question, btw.)
Wow. I truly don’t know. But your thoughts seem to reflect my notes from the Larie Roth show and I hadn’t even written them yet, and the show hadn’t been broadcast yet. That is creepy.
One more thing. While searching around the web this afternoon, I came across reference to a Bill introduced by Don Nickles, OK, Sen. Inhope, OK, and Mary Landrieu in 2004 granting all the rights of natural born citizens (including running for president) to children adopted, or born, offshore to American parents. I have no idea whether it passed, but the date tells me that there has been a movement for some time to undermine the natural born citizen clause.
I think that it is imperative that Congress pass a law requiring proof of “natural born citizen status” before a name can go on the ballot. If Congress can’t, or won’t, do so, then the States would have to. You wouldn’t need all of them — just a few because nobody could win the election unless his/her name appeared on all ballots.
I’ll try to find that link.
The problem is none of us know....Did you see my thoughts for yesterday...I keep revising them...Keep thinking of other angles.... What would you add?
Who’s to say that the FBI/CIA/Interpol isn’t involved in this?
Bush cooperated.
B. The Canadian Press wrote an article about how information was being surpressed way back to before the election because talking heads had been threatened if they mentioned the BC. They said they had documentation. They promised more information would soon be released. (Looked like bait to me...Come and get it the guys in Red have the place covered)
C. Neither A or B could have been accomplished by some kid in his parents basement (Forgery yes but coordinating all those media outlets, NO. Particularly because they were each different: not from talking points)
D. Bo would have that power. He would have no reason of knowing if a document given to Orley was authentic or not, unless he faked it himself.
D1: He’d be searching just like us, if he thought it was authentic.
D2: He’d try to destroy it and Orly if he thought it was real.
D3: IF he faked it himself, he’d wait until Orly was actually in court to expose her.....Let the authenticators expose her.
(What happened?...You chose)
E. If he didn’t know it was authentic and HE didn’t set it up; than the only others with the power would be the CIA, FBI etc. They could be setting up a “sting” operation with the Canadian news as bait or Orley’s BC as bait or both...Goal is more than exposing then BO’s BC, Something bigger...much bigger.
OR:
F. Foreign powers are involved.
Huh? Did that happen, or is that conjecture, or wishful thinking?
“You keep saying that “something” is fishy. And then slam everyone who thinks that “something” most likely involves his eligibility; most likely his birthplace not being Honolulu, HI. Most people (from what I’ve been reading) do not state categorically that they know for sure and certain that he was NOT born in HI, and/or that he WAS born in Mombasa, Kenya.”
But they call him an illegal alien... and any request for evidence of things that are asserted as fact is met with intense hostility.
“But it sure looks as though that could very well be the case. What other “fishy” thing could it be? Other than a different father? But there is so much - two hospitals listed, the COLB having problems, the HI fishuls saying strange things, 0bama mentioning his BC a couple of times in the books that “he” wrote, and so on.”
I think it is exactly that — that Frank Marshall Davis is his father, and that Davis paid Obama to pretend he was the father. Or maybe he was born in Kenya, too. But he sure doesn’t look anything like his supposed father, and the odds of that are pretty low, I think.
“You also state that for people to “believe” something without evidence is stupid. Well, 0bama has the evidence. Too bad he won’t release it. And since he and his team have done a pretty good job of hiding/scrubbing/sealing almost every paper record from his entire life, it isn’t very easy to get “evidence”. That in itself is damning.”
Yes, I agree with you. But that still doesn’t give us anything but suspicion. I think the suspicion is entirely reasonable. I’ve been trying to say that. I feel that perhaps you understand me now.
“For some mysterious reason, that doesn’t seem to bother some people.”
It bothers ME a lot, which is why I was hoping the KBC was real. Alas, it was not.
I’m with all of you who suspect the worst. I just cannot maintain that suspicion is enough evidence to make claims about the truth.
We’re not making claims, We’re speculating....without the what ifs.
No...it did happen. We were posting about it here at FR. He wrote EO’s to access certain records and did it late after congress was gone and would be unable to stop the EO’s. We did speculate here at FR that they must be busy this weekend.
For lack of any other, better term.
Look, Berg BELIEVES Obama is not a NBC. He has no proof, but he believes it. So does Orly, only she also BELIEVES that you need two citizen parents to be a NBC. So do many here, despite the facts that have been presented over and over again — the Supreme Court cases, the U.S. Code, etc.
Should the Supreme Court rule specifically on NBC? Yes, but it needs a case presented to it. Only a fellow-candidate has standing to do that.
We blew it last year. The Republicans blew it. They cudda, shudda told McCain to file a lawsuit. But the trouble was that HE had his own NBC issue. I don’t know whether he is a NBC or not. His case is quite complicated. I think it has to do with which of two laws governs his citizenship.
There is nothing wrong with a statute clarifying who is and who is not a citizen at birth; what’s prohibited is a statute that makes aliens into citizens. Those citizens cannot be NBC, by definition. But people here refuse to accept the U.S. statute that defines who is a citizen at birth (in other words, a NBC). Why? That is unreasonable. That is clinging to a belief that is not based on fact.
And then BO reversed them 24 hours after he took office.????
Yes .. something was wrong .. probably the purposeful destruction of our economy by Soros, right before the election, and Bush was told it would be worse than the Depression by the ‘experts’ Paulson and Bernanke if he didn’t take immediate drastic actions.
This was .. what .. about 2- 2-1/2 before his term ended?
That doesn’t strike you as peculiar ?
What about earlier -- the tremendous escalation of gas prices last summer? Don't you think that was orchestrated and manipulated, probably by Soros & friends? And the useful idiots -- Democrats -- won't allow us to drill for oil and gas. We are surrounded by a supply much larger than that in Saudi Arabia, yet we are not allowed to use it. Same goes for nuclear power. The Dems want clean energy, but they won't allow us to build and use nuclear energy. Nor store it at the site in Yucca Mountain for which Nevada was very happy to take the jobs and money to build it and then shut it, leaving the nuclear waste rotting in surface storage. It's a disgrace.
The thought has occurred -- what if every single Congresscritter was defeated in 2010? Would we be any worse off? We'd be throwing out more Dems than Reps. We could have a do-over.
“We’re not making claims, We’re speculating....without the what ifs.”
You’ve hit on it, I think. I don’t hear any doubt. That’s an interesting observation. Maybe it’s the case; clearly you think it is. Thanks for expressing it.
Interesting...let me think about it...I just know the Clintons’ both were embolden this past week...they know something we aren’t privy too...YET.
SO SAYS my ninety year old dad, who is a genius, graduated at the top of his law school class, clerked in the Federal court system and practice law for over 50 years.
SO SAYS my high school government teacher, born in US, parents born in Russia, spoke four languages, career air force,worked for the CIA and was a teacher extraordinaire.
SO SAYS Hoosiermama....don't argue with her she's your elder show some respect kid.
Why then, are they not documented here?:
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html
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