Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[rxsid]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)

[mad_as_he$$]

I was changing diapers like a pro 48 hours into the experience with the first madette - hey and I am a guy(no wise cracks).

[Lurking Libertarian]

Although at the end of the day, it should not make any difference because what the judge would be looking at is the real certificate, not an image.

What real certificate? Orly's motion says she has only "a color copy of a certain document."

[JewishRighter]

FWIW, think nothing of it. We are all trying very hard to get to the truth of this crucial matter. Keep up the good fight.

[hoosiermama]

Which number? Is it the one posted about 100 posts above?

[MHGinTN]

Joe reads here with regularity.

[SeattleBruce]

“and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”
+++++++++++++++

Right. An important clause. But it says nothing about those slaves parents. Again the NBC for BO is a seperate issue. If Obama was born in HI, he’s a US citizen at birth (albeit perhaps he was a dual citizen.) But he may not be/have been a NBC. The SCOTUS needs to rule on that.

There’s a move afoot in CA and elsewhere though to challenge the citizen status of anchor babies. This might affect this debate in the future (of who’s a citizen at birth and who a ‘natural born citizen’ is.)

http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San-Diego-County-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m7d1-California-is-closer-to-ending-illegal-Anchor-Baby-births

[Covenantor]

You are undoubtedly unaware that in 1964 immigration had a fairly rigid quota system, country based, as in not to exceed applicants from each country.

Further more, all legal aliens be they on student visas, work visa, or with permanent resident status, etc. had to register with the INS every January, listing residence, place of employment, occupation, marital status including children. Had you been an adult then you could not have missed the posters and forms in every post office, the TV and radio commercials and work place personnel managers checking on their foreign employees and reminding them to register with Immigration And Naturaliztion.

So to question the immigration status of the father and child would have been not only prudent but mandatory. That would include showing entry visas, passports which would have listed dependent children and their vital statistics. Given that the father was a foreign national the burden of proof of parenthood would on Stanley Ann’s shoulders.

The INS were not so careless back then in demanding bona fides.

[editor-surveyor]

It didn’t need to address the slave’s parents.

The authors of the ammendment definitely were addressing the parents of any future births. At that time, all minors were the property of their parents, and their legal status could not be ‘legal’ if their parents were not also legal.

IOW, visa or green card holders.

[jcsjcm]

I am sorry Salamander, I saw the whole thing unfold but I didn’t realize yours was the one I copied to my computer. I pulled it as soon as it was brought to my attention.

[rxsid]

"However in part the battle is for the attention of the voting public and a clear response to this is going to be helpful."

For sure. Public opinion is important as well. It's one of the reason why the Barry supporters are in an all out effort to discredit anyone seeking the truth...and the release of many of his historical documents (i.e. not "just" the B.C.).

[Fractal Trader]

Many of the local Muslims did not want to be annexed by Zanzibar as the UK handed over control to the people of the region.

A key fact about Zanzibar is that it was the central point of entry for slaves in transit to the Arab states. I could understand why some of the Kenyans (even Muslims) might want to avoid affiliation with Zanzibar.

[David]

Sorry, I don’t have a ping list. I just try to respond to people who say stuff I think needs attention. Sometimes I tell others who were interested in the particular subject matter.

[editor-surveyor]

After looking them over carefully, I also notice that the plaid patterns are different, both in thread count, and in colors.

[Salamander]

Waaaaay back in the 300s.

It's got a black background and an anomalous “tear”.

Probably won't show up because I deleted it from my server.

[Salamander]

I’m starting to feel like Fox Mulder.....:-\

[freedommom]

I noticed that too.
When I went to save the picture they said it was
#57 then #58.
I’m not computer savvy but how would we find 1-56?

[David]

I have to completely disagree with you on this one BP2. Yes the judge would take it off of Stanley Ann's (or her lawyer's word) on the divorce papers that Barack was her child. I personally know of a marriage and divorce where the father was from a different country. There were 3 small children involved and the mother asked for custody but she didn't ask for child support. She knew with the father back in his country it would be impossible to collect. The Judge never questioned the mother in any of the statements she put on her "do it yourself" divorce papers. No Birth Certificates, No DNA nor her Marriage Certificate was ever asked to be put into the divorce records. He took her word for everything she put in those papers. She was awarded full custody. In fact I know of many divorces with under age children and they never ask for copies of Birth Certificates to be filed with the divorce papers.

Nah.

Might happen in a given courtroom before a particular judge who decided he needed to do it that way. But in most jurisdictions, court rule requires a birth certificate for all minor children--not likely to get a judge to back off, particularly in an ex parte case.

[BP2]

The image BELOW was saved on my local hard drive from Scribd on Sun, 8-2-09 11:36 EST as a .pdf (150K) and converted it to a .jpg (263K) in Adobe Acrobat Pro at 11:41 EST. I trust its integrity.

It was otherwise uploaded UNALTERED to the host site from which you're viewing it now. I know it has NOT been changed by the Obots online. And if it is LATER altered somehow by an Obot, I still have backups.

[Salamander]

No, *I* am sorry.

[BP2]

After looking them over carefully, I also notice that the plaid patterns are different, both in thread count, and in colors.

LOL, thread count. Never thought to cross-check that!

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