Barack's little "African" problem. (vanity)

To preface what follows, I was born in Hawaii in 1969. I have both my long form BC and my COLB from that state.

My COLB was printed for me at my mothers request in a letter that was received (and confirmed by computer records by the Vital Stats office in the Hawaiian Dept of Health in Honolulu) and my COLB that I received should have had the date of Mar.6 2000. It states Mar. 6 2007 (!).

Lets just say that in 2007 when Barry was really getting into running for President that he was facing some questions from the black community, which was indeed the case. The question in the black community was this: Is he black enough? Barry is 50% white, 44% Arab and 6% Black from the breakdown that I have repeatedly seen. So the black community isn’t sure they can support this guy because he is half white, and we have all heard the condescension that Black people have given to mulatto children. Certainly in my lifetime I can remember some rather racist black kids riding the mulatto kids I knew. Barry is most definitely Mulatto.

Ok so he has a problem with convincing the Black community to support him, and he NEEDS their support, and that of ACORN, the two go hand in hand.

So, Barry goes back to Hawaii on vacation, visits grandma. Grandma is VERY well connected in Honolulu. You don’t get to the position of VP of Hawaii’s largest bank and NOT be connected. In Hawaii connections are everything. With connections, you can do just about anything, a favor is a favor, and Grandma likely had more than just a few to pull in. Thats just how the islands work. I am not going to try and explain it more than that, it would take too long. But I have connected family on Kauai to this day, so let’s just stipulate that I know what I am talking about.

Back to the story. Barry needs to solidly convince a lot of Black people that he has the creds to run from the Black community, to counter his detractors on the whole Black enough issue.

A COLB stating African would do that pretty convincingly. Grandma pulls a few strings and gets Barry a COLB that states African, and is actually a real document from the State of Hawaii because it indeed came from there, but under some false circumstances. Mainly that his race was African, when clearly it wasn’t, he had a White Mother. If anything, original COLB would have said Negro or Black. That might not be enough to counter the white half of his genetic make up in the Black Community, but stating “AFRICAN” WOULD. But I don’t think hid long form says Negro or Black, I think it classifies him as Caucasian.

So it is a “legit” document that was printed under false circumstances. I am theorizing that it was printed by someone in the Vital Statistics Office, but as my OWN COLB shows, by the messed up date, that anyone who knew how to do it could have printed one up with the information of choice, then put the seal on it folded it, and sent it on its way. The Date stamp on the Fact Check Document has the date stamp above Onaka’s name, which could only have been printed in the snail mail order room, like mine is. It is ALSO a separate room. There are three printing Machines in that office which could have been used, the front desk, which has a date stamper to the Side of Onaka’s stamp (also printed by the machines at the same time as the rest of the Document is printed), and the internet order area, which also has the stamp to the side, and the oldest machine, which has the date ABOVE Onaka’s stamp. Now I know this because while I was confirming the order date of my own COLB I did a little digging, and the clerk was very informative and helpful. Obama got a COLB that was printed in the Mail Order’s separate room. If it was ordered at the front desk, then it would have been printed there, not in the snail mail room, unless someone was going to change some of the info on it and wanted to conceal that...

Now is the date on the back of the fact check document on or about the same as one of his vacations to the Islands? I was told that it can take up to a month to process orders, but I think he likely got it handed to him on or about the same time he or Grandma ordered it. In reality that doesn’t matter, Grandma could have pulled strings at any time and had it mailed to him.

Now, because the COLB that Barry has is legit looking, all he has to do is make sure his Long Form Birth Certificate NEVER sees the light of day, and that his school records and financial aid applications never see the light of day either. Why? Because his Long form would say that he is Caucasian, and his school records/financial aid, under his Barry Soetoro name show him to be a foreigner from Indonesia. I could go into the whole Immigration status thing, which I do think has some validity to it, and certainly has not been looked at by a Court AS OF YET, so I will leave that alone for now, it could well be he is a citizen, but because of dual citizenship issues, he is not a Natural Born citizen.

OK so he now has his Black enough Street creds, and a “legit” COLB, he should be in the clear right? Only if you assume that the COLB he has was gotten in 2007 was 100% legit, and I have proof that a COLB can have incorrect information in it - Because MINE DOES.

Some time ago, I remember reading that Barry’s lawyer that had seen the document said that he was indeed born in Hawaii, but that his records contained information that would be “embarrassing”. Is Caucasian embarrassing enough? Is lying to the Black Community enough? Is gaining their support with a lie embarrassing enough? Do you think it possible that once this information became public, with the release of a Long Form BC stating he was Caucasian, that the black community would become apathetic to him in part or in whole?

Add to this, Barry describes his grandmother as the rock of his family, as well as describing her as “afraid of Black men”, do you think that she, with her connections, her strength of charachter, and a wayward 17 year old daughter having shown some poor decision making in the recent past from Grandma’s perspective, could have required that her daughter state the race of her child as accurately being predominately white, which he is? I do indeed think so.

Folks, I think that Barry may well have been born in Hawaii, solid evidence of some other place being missing, that he was registered with the office of Vital Statistics as being Caucasian. He states in his book that he HAD all his birth records at one time, why would he need a new COLB in 2007 if that’s the case? Because he needed one that would gain him the support of the Black Community, and indeed they got a real live “African” even better!!

So if this theory is true, do you think that come 2011 that the black community is going to be as fired up about their lying Mulatto pretending to “African” status? Ummm hummmm.

Do you think they would have supported him as strongly as they did in 2008 as a mostly white guy?? As the messiah? As the ONE? I don’t think so. I could be wrong on that... But I don’t think so. Perceptions matter sometimes, and there is a world of difference in perceiving Barry as African and White. All the difference in the world to the Black Community, enough to win the Presidency.

Remember, he only won by a few percentage points. His electoral numbers came from fewer total states that had higher numbers of Blacks in the population.

This whole premise of “not black enough” precipitating such a dangerous undertaking in faking his BC is a stretch IMHO. I have no doubt that the COLB is a fake. Polarik (sp) has shown that 9 ways from Sunday.

Why is still the question. It would have to be something much bigger than a perception from a minority voting block. Face it, Chicago is a very weird place politically. All he had to do was get the nomination and run against W’s 3rd term.

He looked black, acted black, and had a black wife. IOW he quacked like a duck, therefore he was a duck. Good enough for blacks blasting O-bam-a from their stereo systems in their cars, youth who thought they were black and liberal who have white guilt. That was enough to win the election along with a little help from ACORN.

The BC issue has so many theories. Perhaps one is right. Perhaps none are. But there was a compelling reason that he HAD to fake it. This was not a simple “let me help the blacks accept a me as a black man” who for all intents and purposes is black” sort of thing. I really think that this is like a Nelson DeMille novel. The answers are right there; but we are going to need just a little more info to connect the dots (like the BC).

It looks like I forgot to send it. You could have reminded me instead of accusing me. I will scan the documents again and change the contrast. I can't change the exposure, I don't have the HP software to do that, and frankly I am so mad at you I don't even want to bother but I will anyway, and I will print out a part of this post as proof that you can see and I will post THAT little tidbit on FR as well. You own me one big apology Polarik. A real big FAT one. The scan I sent you is a REAL COLB printed on Mar 6th 2000 with a date of Mar 6th 2007 on it as it was printed by the HDH. I am so pissed off at you right now I can't think straight. I ONLY sent you this info to help you out. And you do this. Real nice clark. You also REFUSE to get that this document was PRINTED IN 2000!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT 2007!!!!!!!!!!
Here is the email conversation I had with Polarik, after this there is no further communications that I had with him, I just completely forgot to do the scans and send them to him. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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Polarik to me show details Jul 15 (13 days ago) Reply Follow up message

Polarik

to me

show details Jul 15 (13 days ago)

OK. I believe you.

Can I get another set made with more exposure?

Thanks,

XXX
--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Lady D <XXXXXXXXXX> wrote:

From: Lady D <XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX>

Subject: Re: Your COLB
To: "Polarik" <polarik@XXXXX>
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 3:09 AM

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Hey XXXXXX,

You have to understand something about this COLB. Its NOT a 2007. Its a 2000 with an incorrect date on it!

Yea seriously. I checked with The Dept of Health and confirmed with the person on the phone, XXXX, that indeed my copy was ordered in 2000, Feb actually. Which is the month my husband and I moved from Texas to San Diego and I got my wallet stolen on the trip. That was a horrible move. Anyway, its a 2000 copy with an incorrect date, and that incorrect date might just set precedence for HDH incorrectly dating materials, because you have a scanned one right in in front of ya!

Thats what makes this COLB interesting. Other than me of course LOL

And we all know I am insignificant lol

Anyway, seriously, I hope this helps you! But I have to be very very clear, this document was printed in 2000!

Regards and salutes to a fellow FReeper!

Danae

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Polarik <polarik@XXXXXXX> wrote:

Lady D:

Thanks so much for sending me these.

Boy, I wish I had known last year that you had this. It's a 2007 COLB, and I was scouring the countryside looking for another one like it.

I've attached a copy of the only 2007 COLB I had prior to getting yours.

Now, what I'd really would appreciate is if you can make me another set of scans, but this time, with higher output levels, sort of like the one I attached.

The first set is a bit underexposed to make out all the detail.

If you are using the the HP software (PrecisionScan Pro, I think it's called), or even just the driver, I believe that there is a setting for output level or exposure control on the output menu.

I used to use an HP6250cxi and I recall that either a Settings or Options selection is on the top menu. I stopped using it because the software does not run under Vista.

Seeing your COLB is like really great news and not so great news.

It's really great news because it's a real 2007 COLB made during the same year that Obama's bogus COLB was allegedly made.

It's not so good news because it confirmed one of my fears -- that the DOH used both the larger and smaller Seal designs in the same year. If you ever saw that Seal comparison made by XXXXXXXXX, then you'll know what I mean.

I went out on a limb last year by stating that the DOH only used the larger Seal, and when I saw the smaller Seal in the Factcheck photos, I thought that was a red flag. It's a false alarm, but no matter because the object that Factcheck photographed is a fabricated document.

Thanks ever so much,

XXXXXXXXX

--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Lady D <XXXXXXXXXXXXX> wrote:

From: Lady D <XXXXXXXXXXXXX>
Subject: polarik@XXXXXXXXXXXX
To: polarik@XXXXXXXXX
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:41 AM

Hey Pol,

Here is the COLB, both sides. They were scanned by me just now with an HP C4200 Printer Scanner on Custom Settings of 600 DPI all other color settings at default.

Again I wish to stress that I do not want to see my personal information on the internet. The reason I am sending this to you is because the Department of Heath in Hawaii just confirmed to me by phone that this document was indeed requested in Feb of 2000, they have a computer record of it. and it shows that my Mom requested it. If MY colb could have a MISTAKEN date like this, because its supposed to be for the date of the PRINTING, then it is conceivable that it could be changed to ANY date the person printing out could want.

I hope this helps.

XXXXXXXXXX

Forward

Lady D

to Polarik

show details Jul 15 (12 days ago)

Sure, I just wanted to give you a default set at first. But yes I can do that after my Dr. Appointment this PM. :)

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The woman I spoke to on the phone, no I won’t give you her name, said that she did not know. But if I send it back to her she would send me an accurate copy with a correct date on it at no charge.

Look, I am telling the truth. To the point that I went to the trouble of calling the office and CONFIRMING that my Mother, in writing (snail mail) requested a copy of my COLB. She confimed to me that it was ordered in Feb of 2000 by my mother, and gave me her name.

MHGinTN... I am not lying, I am not making anything up either. I would imagine that I could ask the office for written proof that it was ordered in Feb of 2000. Is that what would make you happy and believe that I am telling you the truth? I don’t even know if they would do that. I was told I could send it in a get a replacement. I did not inquire for a copy of their computer order records! I don’t know if they would even do that.

Beyond that, WHY WOULD I LIE?

I would not. I would not send my PERSONAL information to what amounts to a complete stranger Polarik, if I were not being completely honest! I have been posting here for a long time, I actually CARE about my reputation here! If nothing else give me the damned benefit of the doubt.

“1st. If they clerk messed up on the date, and they do make mistake, you have to think there is a quality control over documents that are so vital.”
The clerk admitted the mistake. The date function was described to me as being part of the machine, which can have the date changed. She had no explanation for WHY I would get one with a 2007 date on it. She confirmed by phone, that it was ordered by my mother in snail mail in Feb of 2000 as I had my wallet stolen in a move from Texas to California leaving me with no identification, it was processed Mar 6th of the same year, 2000.

“2nd. I wonder if they just have a date roller and put any date on a document that suits them and hence the mistake? I doubt it. I have done more than my fair share of business with government around the country and with other businesses and they purchase a new date stamp each year to prevent the mistake like you “experienced”.”
No, I was told specifically that the date stamper was PART of the printing machine.

Enjoy dinner.

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