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Constitutional Crisis Looming?
The August Forecast ^ | July 24, 2009 | Patrick Wood

Posted on 07/27/2009 10:31:16 AM PDT by patriotgal1787

The inflam­ma­tory issue of Bar­rack Obama’s birth cer­tifi­cate is gath­ering steam across America: Was he or was he not born in the United States?

If he was born any­where other than on Amer­ican soil, then his pres­i­dency is inval­i­dated. Why? The Con­sti­tu­tion of the United States point­edly requires that the Pres­i­dent be a nat­ural born citizen.

Defusing the issue would be easy: Obama could simply pro­vide a legit­i­mate and com­plete birth cer­tifi­cate proving his birth loca­tion. Not only has he stub­bornly refused to do so, but he has spent sev­eral mil­lion dol­lars in legal fees to thwart var­ious cit­izen law­suits that demand proper disclosure.

Obama has also legally cloaked records that could poten­tially sup­port or dis­credit his cit­i­zen­ship claims, like school records and tran­scripts from Har­vard and Occi­dental Col­lege. Some inves­ti­ga­tors sus­pect that he may have applied for admis­sion as a for­eign student.

The pack of critics (called “birthers” by Obama defenders) is get­ting larger by the day. Lou Dobbs and Rush Lim­baugh are both talking about it. WorldNet Daily devoted an entire issue of Whistle­Blower Mag­a­zine to it. Lawyers have filed dozens of law­suits. Mil­i­tary offi­cers are chal­lenging poten­tially illegal orders to be deployed to combat zones over­seas. Left-wing orga­ni­za­tions are being drawn into vocal oppo­si­tion, thus stir­ring the pot even more.

As the battle heats up, the attacks on the “birthers” by their detrac­tors (mostly left-wing) is taking on a familiar pat­tern. The former are being being ruth­lessly ridiculed, scorned and mar­gin­al­ized as the “lunatic fringe.”

So far, nei­ther side has blinked. Nei­ther is willing to give an inch. The battle lines have been drawn.

Herein lies the problem.

(Excerpt) Read more at augustforecast.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birth; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; crisis; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; usurper
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The battle lines are being drawn... see my post at http://radiopatriot.blogspot.com/2009/07/we-are-runing-out-of-time.html
1 posted on 07/27/2009 10:31:16 AM PDT by patriotgal1787
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To: patriotgal1787

This is not a ‘CRISIS’ to anyone outside of Washington ‘elites’

THIS IS AMERICA- throw him in jail and let’s move on...

We’ll get over it.


2 posted on 07/27/2009 10:36:49 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Mr. K
We’ll get over it.

In a heartbeat here.

ML/NJ

3 posted on 07/27/2009 10:39:09 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: patriotgal1787
No crises we follow the Constitution very simple and anyone who does not in government gets jailed for high Treason.
4 posted on 07/27/2009 10:41:47 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat

crises=crisis


5 posted on 07/27/2009 10:43:15 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: patriotgal1787

The only thing that has changed since last year is the number of people who are reporting on it.

Did CNN get a call from Rahm to try to shut Lou Dobbs down.

Someone posted the story about how in June Hawaii was requiring people to get their long form if they wanted “special privileges”.
Obviously, the short form isn’t always enough.

And if they could get their long form in June, why can’t Obama.

CNN entrance into this with a concocted story is highly suspicious.


6 posted on 07/27/2009 10:43:18 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Mr. K

Making our elected officials follow the Constitution does not make a crisis. Allowing someone to assume the presidency on false pretenses aka breaking the damn law, does make a crisis. To the media, it will be a crisis because they made this guy and continue to prop him up.


7 posted on 07/27/2009 10:47:44 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: patriotgal1787
There won't be a constitutional crisis. The reason is that the only way this will get action is if Obama becomes such an Albatross around the neck of the Democrats that they decide to use the CLOB issue to get rid of him. And in that case there will be universal agreement. Much like Nixon, the Democrats wanted him gone and the Republicans wanted him gone. No crisis, Obama will be presented with the choice of walking away a rich man or being dragged away in hand cuffs. So he will walk away claiming to be a victim and be paid millions to wright more lame books about himself.
8 posted on 07/27/2009 10:47:57 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: All
Be careful what you wish for.... you might get it....



Delaware's own
9 posted on 07/27/2009 10:49:45 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: patriotgal1787
...Obama should have balked during his cam­paign when sup­porters and his cap­tive media com­pared him to the Mes­siah.
Every­body hailed Jesus Christ when he appeared in Jerusalem on Palm Sunday, but less than three days later, they demanded his execution."

"One more starry-eyed messiah
Meets a violent farewell"
-Don Henley / Glen Frey

10 posted on 07/27/2009 10:51:14 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: GonzoGOP

Until there is proof that he isn’t eligible, he won’t leave.
Methinks birthers underestimate how badly he, and those supporting him, wants power. They’ll manufacture a crisis to distract from the issue if they have to (which they won’t, as there are plenty of crises building).


11 posted on 07/27/2009 10:53:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: BigEdLB

The law is the law, and we who honor our Constitution honor the rule of law.

If it is determined by law that Mr. Biden is the rightful POTUS, then so be it. If it is determined that Zero is the rightful President, then so be it.

Why is this so difficult to understand - we don’t get to cherry pick the results, we don’t get to “rig” results to our favor, but we DO get to live under the law. What a great country we have (for now).


12 posted on 07/27/2009 10:53:51 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: BigEdLB

I’ll take an American any day over a foreign born president.


13 posted on 07/27/2009 10:57:11 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: ctdonath2
The key is how much those supporting him want power. Postulate this situation. It is 2011 Obama's poll number continue to slide until he is in 2008 GWB territory. The Dems know they are going to get pasted, but Obama won't back down because of his ego. His 97% lock on the black vote means they can't get rid of him in the primaries. They need some get rid of Obama, without having to admit that his socialist adjenda, which they also support, is a failure.

Enter Mt. birth certificate. The Clintonistas can now get rid of Obama with an issue that has absolutely nothing to do with any of his policies, and which is cannot be used against them in the future. Hillary calls in old favors and provides just enough "D" votes that when combined with the GOP make impeachment inevitable. They she appears to be the elder statesperson and tells Obama to do the Nixon or get booted. All the Dems can then claim to have been unwitting victims of Obama's scam, not the conspirators they actually are. The press loves the victim story so gives them a pass. Biden takes over but he is the ultimate lame duck allowing Hillary to step up and save the party.

Far fetched, sure. But so is a Kenyan communist taking over the US and appointing a bunch of unconfirmed apparatchiks to run every aspect of the US economy.
14 posted on 07/27/2009 11:05:02 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: BigEdLB
Be careful what you wish for.... you might get it....

That's the most troubling possibility, especially if 2010 elections don't change the balance in the Congress enough. OTOH, if he is as inept as he appears, additionally burdened by the stigma of his former boss' downfall, the feds may end up practically frozen for couple years, which is probably not all that bad -- the less they meddle into everyone's business the less damage they will cause. Then in 2012, Sarah rides in and cleans up the works.

15 posted on 07/27/2009 11:09:51 AM PDT by nightlight7
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To: patriotgal1787

This is only a crisis for the elitists in the Washington DC/New York corridor — and they know it. The credibility of these elitists in government and media is falling rapidly.


16 posted on 07/27/2009 11:10:09 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: roaddog727

PING!


17 posted on 07/27/2009 11:17:47 AM PDT by circumbendibus (Where's the Birth Certificate?)
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To: patriotgal1787

The real constitutional crisis is the Obama care law. Texas and other states recently going on record as actually having rights under the constitution will reject the law and all the garbage being thrust on them.

Presidents come and go, but this is the biggest event in American history since the Civil War.


18 posted on 07/27/2009 11:24:06 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: patriotgal1787

We MUST not allow the moral onus of this debate to be inverted. A legitimate and moral president would be MORE than happy to allay his countrymen’s legitimate concerns about the legal basis for his governance and produce ordinary documentation to confirm that legal and constitutional basis, as did Barry Goldwater, George Romney Sr, and John S.McCain. It is he who has caused this crisis, and no amount od pettifogging obsfucation by his acolytes can change that.

But I am certain that Hussein ain’t legitimate. He is all likelihood a lying usurping BASTARD who, were these documents be revealed, expose him for the counterfeit POTUS that he is.

Justice Marshall said that no provision of the constitution is meaningless. The lack of statutory language undergirding the constitution’s Art. II, Sec 1, clause 5 does NOT mean it can’t be enforced. All we need is discovery from ONE court on these documents. At that point, it can be determined as to whether or not recourse to the POLITICAL mechanisms outlined in Art.I Sec 3, and the XX amendment should be resorted to.

Yes, I know that it is currently a Democratic Congress. The American people need to know whether or not that Congress would do it’s duty to the constitution. And by the time this thing blows up, we may have an entirely different Congress and diferent prospects for Hussein.


19 posted on 07/27/2009 11:31:29 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: GonzoGOP

Interesting.
Call it the “back pocket” theory - in that those who can really make the BC issue happen will just keep it in their back pocket until they need to control/eject BHO.


20 posted on 07/27/2009 11:33:21 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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