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BIRTHER MADNESS (the panic has set in)
Washington Monthly ^ | 7/22/09 | Stevie Benen

Posted on 07/22/2009 11:36:59 AM PDT by pissant

Like Adam Serwer, I simply assumed the nuts who questioned President Obama's citizenship would pick some new cause after the inauguration. During the campaign, they had a stronger incentive -- characterize Obama as "the other" and somehow "less American." But after Obama won -- and well after the release of his birth certificate and local newspaper's birth announcement -- the silly little right-wing crusade lost its salience.

Or so I thought.

Limbaugh, of course, is obsessed, but so is CNN's Lou Dobbs, who's not only spouting this nonsense on a nearly daily basis, but started to call the president "undocumented" on the air yesterday, before pulling back slightly. The absurd Birther bill in Congress continues to pick up support from right-wing lawmakers, including Rep. John Campbell (R) of California, who appeared on MSNBC's "Hardball" yesterday to defend the proposal. (Chris Matthews held up the birth certificate on screen before telling Campbell, "What you're doing is appeasing the nutcases.... [Y]ou're verifying the paranoia out there.")

But what really irked me was Liz Cheney who, believe it or not, was on CNN again this week. This time, she told Larry King that the Birthers' efforts are Obama's fault. Asked if she believes this nonsense, Cheney said:

"I think that the Democrats have got more crazies than the Republicans do. But setting that aside, I think that -- you know, one of the reasons I think you see people so concerned about this, I think that, you know, this issue is people are uncomfortable with having, for the first time ever, I think, a president who seems so reluctant to defend the nation overseas. [...]

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; constitution; eligibility; ineligible; kenya; larrysinclairslover; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; truthers; usurper
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Axelrod is in a flop sweat.
1 posted on 07/22/2009 11:36:59 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

0bama’s problem is he gave up his US citizenship when he immigrated to Indonesia.
If he ever regained his US citizenship, he would have been a naturalized citizen from that point on, not a natural born citizen.


2 posted on 07/22/2009 11:40:00 AM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: pissant
You birthers are killing My Presidency!
3 posted on 07/22/2009 11:40:08 AM PDT by McGruff (Only dead fish go with the flow.)
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To: McGruff

“it’s not about me”


4 posted on 07/22/2009 11:40:36 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Your average Birther. Beware!
5 posted on 07/22/2009 11:41:27 AM PDT by Rodebrecht (If everybody just left everybody else alone, everybody would be a lot happier.)
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To: pissant
Just produce a valid, verifiable birth certificate and all this noise goes away.
6 posted on 07/22/2009 11:41:47 AM PDT by tbpiper (How would you define a 'domestic enemy of the constitution'?)
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To: pissant

semantics vs truth, semantics vs truth.....uh....USA still wants truth you nimrod


7 posted on 07/22/2009 11:41:53 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: pissant
During the campaign, they had a stronger incentive -- characterize Obama as "the other" and somehow "less American."

Big difference between "less American" and "un-American". Obama is actively working to reduce any advantage our country has gained in the world over the last two centuries. The problem is, there are many people born and raised in this country who are only too willing to help.

8 posted on 07/22/2009 11:42:35 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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To: pissant

Seriously, if the whole thing is stupid and getting old and just plain silly... then why doens’t he just release his long form birth cirtificate and be done with it!


9 posted on 07/22/2009 11:42:51 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: counterpunch
0bama’s problem is he gave up his US citizenship when he immigrated to Indonesia. If he ever regained his US citizenship, he would have been a naturalized citizen from that point on, not a natural born citizen.

I don't believe that his mother's actions (having him adopted by Soetero) could have lost his citizenship. At worst he would have had dual citizenship until he was 18 -- then he had to choose.

10 posted on 07/22/2009 11:43:17 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Has Limbaugh said anything about this?

I don’t know, I’ve been listening to Wilkow since I got Sirius.

I was under the impression not many of them were even going to TOUCH this subject.


11 posted on 07/22/2009 11:43:41 AM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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Yes, Rush has been touching on it the last few weeks


13 posted on 07/22/2009 11:44:19 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Except that under Indonesian law, he could not have dual citizenship.


14 posted on 07/22/2009 11:44:56 AM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Seriously, if the whole thing is stupid and getting old and just plain silly... then why doens’t he just release his long form birth cirtificate and be done with it!”

My guess....someone else is listed as Barry’s daddy.


15 posted on 07/22/2009 11:45:05 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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16 posted on 07/22/2009 11:45:10 AM PDT by IrishPennant (RLT = Radical Left Terrorism...feel it????)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I want to hear more aobut Dr. Orly Taitz’ claim (in the Cook case) that Obama used as many as 39 different Social Security numbers. What’s with that? Fraud? Identity theft? What did he use them for?


17 posted on 07/22/2009 11:45:37 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: counterpunch
0bama’s problem is he gave up his US citizenship when he immigrated to Indonesia.

Even assuming Obama ever became an Indonesian citizen, taking on dual citizenship doesn't cause you to lose your U.S. citizenship, unless you formally renounce your U.S. citizenship, according to the Supreme Court's decision in Afroyim v. Rusk.

If he ever regained his US citizenship, he would have been a naturalized citizen from that point on, not a natural born citizen.

If Obama were ever naturalized, that would leave a public record in a U.S. courthouse somewhere. Why hasn't anyone found it yet?

18 posted on 07/22/2009 11:46:02 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

There’s something embarrassing on it.

If, however, it was introduced to the Supreme Court, and verified by experts who were vetted to be non-partisan,

and they didn’t release it yet said he is legit,
I’d shut up.


20 posted on 07/22/2009 11:46:24 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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