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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: HotLead61

What dumbass code do you think exists that would require that death threats remain private?


681 posted on 07/19/2009 5:58:31 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

He couldn’t have been talking about you. He mentioned traitor.


682 posted on 07/19/2009 5:59:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

I may know that I’m not a traitoer, and Jim, I hope that you know that I’m not a traitor, but I’m afraid to our boy lead, I’m the traitor because I would see those engaged in armed insurrection as traitors.


683 posted on 07/19/2009 6:02:35 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Jim Robinson
You have definitely struck a nerve. This thread is getting much attention here and over the Web. Emotions are running high, along with accusations and threats. Cool, reminds me of the good ol' days.

5.56mm

684 posted on 07/19/2009 6:03:31 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Melas; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator

I never said anyone should be killed. YOU are the one who threatened that other poster and said you were going to “pick off” as many rebels as you could.

Don’t try to make me look like you.

I’m one of the patriots you are threatening to “pick off”. Just as you threatened to beat me up and have me “begging for mercy” in a previous post.

It’s like the grade school kid who stomps on another boy’s foot and cries, “Teacher. He just stomped on my foot!”

I am in agreement with Jim Robinson here. You are the one opposing him and threatening all patriotic posters with being “picked off” by you. So the lies won’t work.


685 posted on 07/19/2009 6:03:56 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (The laws of nature are not subject to legislation. Try to stop me from defending myself!)
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To: Melas

No dumbass code required. If you want to call those posts “death threats”, then so be it. I considered it to be a discreet “wake-up call” to you, as a matter of courtesy, that perhaps you should have reconsidered what you had written about “picking off rebels”.

Rest assured, you would not last long, once you had been identified.


686 posted on 07/19/2009 6:04:05 PM PDT by HotLead61 (Once the communists gain power, all their enemies are INTERNAL (that's us))
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To: Melas
If it comes to rebellion, I’m picking off as many rebels as I can until support either comes my way or the scumbags get me.

Sounds to me like a death threat on your part.

687 posted on 07/19/2009 6:04:54 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Melas

Look hot blooded people are all over, these are trying times. My ancestors tried to stand up to the Feds 140 years ago. I think they were right does that make me a radical? Who elevated you as the arbiter of all things radical?


688 posted on 07/19/2009 6:05:23 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: gonzo; MinuteGal; aShepard
Ping-a-ling...

5.56mm

689 posted on 07/19/2009 6:07:09 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: HotLead61

You’re right. Threaten and then cry for teacher to intervene. Cheap tactics. Reprehensible. I’ve been directly threatened by him before.


690 posted on 07/19/2009 6:07:12 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (The laws of nature are not subject to legislation. Try to stop me from defending myself!)
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To: Enoughofthissocialism

Then you have no worries. My weapon isn’t going to be pointed at anyone not similarly armed, and in the process of armed insurrection. It would violate absolutely everything I believe in to do violence to unarmed or defenseless people. You have my solemn word on that.


691 posted on 07/19/2009 6:07:35 PM PDT by Melas
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To: call2arms

good riddance...you just don’t understand what is happening in this country...or you just don’t want to accept it...or you don’t have the “balls” to do something about it.

WE ARE UNDER ATTACK FROM WITHIN!!!

Sheeple unite!!! Seriously EVERYONE ABLE AMERICAN NEEDS TO MARCH ON DC OR ALL IS LOST!!!


692 posted on 07/19/2009 6:08:18 PM PDT by surfer
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To: DuncanWaring

It doesn’t get any clearer than that. Not even a shred of plausable deniability. And look who he is threatening: those who threaten tyranny.


693 posted on 07/19/2009 6:09:08 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (The laws of nature are not subject to legislation. Try to stop me from defending myself!)
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To: Travis McGee
(Why don’t you just tell us your new screen name? What are you up to, your 4th or 5th?)

Nope, same one and only screen name I've had since 1997, newbie.

694 posted on 07/19/2009 6:09:49 PM PDT by saquin
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To: seekthetruth

AMEN STT...

EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE HEARD!!! You cannot sit on the sidelines anymore!!!

EVERY FREEPER FROM FL must be in DC in September.

Stop waiting for someone else to do something...get up...get going!!!


695 posted on 07/19/2009 6:10:07 PM PDT by surfer
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To: HotLead61

I’ve already been identified. My identity is hardly a state secret.


696 posted on 07/19/2009 6:10:16 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas
Don't bother. Your solemn word is worthless. The character you have demonstrated here makes that certain. I have spent my entire career arresting, prosecuting and jailing men of bad character. I know the type.
697 posted on 07/19/2009 6:11:53 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (The laws of nature are not subject to legislation. Try to stop me from defending myself!)
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To: Melas

I meant “identified as one who was picking off patriots”.

Sorry for the confusion.


698 posted on 07/19/2009 6:12:24 PM PDT by HotLead61 (Once the communists gain power, all their enemies are INTERNAL (that's us))
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To: Melas

Melas...why don’t you just get on the right side of the argument?

Jim suggested a path...a vision...a view that would actually help this country.

Think about your children, grandchildren, etc...

This is the biggest shift to tyranny this government has ever attempted...ONLY NOW we have communication ON OUR SIDE.

We CANNOT stand by the side...we need to stand up...be heard and AFFECT REAL CHANGE!!!


699 posted on 07/19/2009 6:12:28 PM PDT by surfer
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To: matt1234
2nd Premise: "They [government] are acting without our consent." [your assertion in post #1] ... Regarding the dubious aspect of the 2nd premise: the present government has overall consent insofar as it has been duly elected in the vast majority if not all cases.

Eggs-ackly. 64 million people voted for Obama. That's the fly in the ointment for this whole complaint.The PEOPLE THEMSELVES SCREWED THE POOCH. Never mind that Obama was a lying sack of extrement who hid his radical associations and friends, who promised tax cuts for 95% of Americans and not the energy bill increases and tax increases that are in cap-n-trade and obama-care bills ... the fact is that the 64 million votes became Obama's 'mandate' to run roughshod on our liberties.

The only way to walk back the cat on an election like that is to win the next election. We need to get some portion of those 64 million to wake the hell up and come crawling to the rest of us asking for forgiveness for their stupidity and asking what we all can do to take America back for freedom.

700 posted on 07/19/2009 6:13:05 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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