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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: Jim Robinson

Hi JimRob — I’m a bit confused as to why the 17th amendment is one of the top priorities. The repeal would shift the election of Senators to the state legislators and away from the people (popular vote), and I think this would be a bad thing. We need more direct connection to our representatives and not less.

http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am17.html

Can you clarify?

BTW, exciting initiative you have started here! Kudos!


221 posted on 07/18/2009 2:27:50 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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222 posted on 07/18/2009 2:27:57 PM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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To: Empireoftheatom48

Peaceful protest en masse will be met by some sort of response. It could be violent and we must have the technology ready to send the video out.

If the other side (the government, Obama thugs) goes too far and we get the visual impact of that overreaction out (not expecting a dime’s worth of MSM or maybe even Fox help on this), it might get interesting.

Martin Luther King’s move on Birmingham in 1963 was the right move at the right time from his perspective. The whites were divided between Bull Connor’s faction and another one.

Connor brought in the hoses and arrested thousands among other things to assert his position among whites.

His overreaction to the protests was national news and stirred the pot up. The “moderate” faction caved on hiring more blacks to work in Birmingham stores.

Klan members bombed hotels and churches after the King-Connor confrontation.

Then blacks rioted in Birmingham and the spiral of violence spread into northern cities in 1963, early 1964, took a break (deliberate) for the 1964 elections, then continued into the rest of the 1960’s.

In our situation I have a couple of questions.

Will there be a narrow set of specific demands??????

Are we ready to accept that violence that could result because the other side attacks us?????????

I ask the questions not to downplay the idea of a march on Washington, just to get it into perspective and generate sober thinking.


223 posted on 07/18/2009 2:28:53 PM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan, I hope.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

And you might want to add Depends to that list. I know it sounds crazy, but lack of rest room facilities would be a real downer. What did those gazillions of people do at the inauguration? Oh wait . . .I don’t want to know . . .

I saw the heaps of trash they left everywhere. That’s one thing we would NOT do, just because it’s not in our nature.


224 posted on 07/18/2009 2:30:57 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Most people will gladly ride the trains to their gulags.


225 posted on 07/18/2009 2:31:59 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: Jim Robinson
One thing we need to do is to stop this corrupt media. They are controlling the information that gets out. There have been no protests against the media and that is an easy thing to do. Say one day MSNBC was targeted. Fox, CNN, the other media outlets would cover it. The MSM loves to eat each other, they would report it. The signs would be seen, people would be interviewed. The media is no better than that of the old USSR. Call them out, take them to task, they need to report the news, honestly and unbiased.

I truly believe if it were not for the MSM we would not have this usurpation of power in the executive branch. Many of the Democrats in the Senate have complained, Byrd sent a letter to Obama and told him he was abusing the power and eliminating the checks and balances. I do not believe that most Democrats want one man in charge of this country. Only the CPUSA and the Che lovers want that.

226 posted on 07/18/2009 2:38:59 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: luvEastTenn
Most people will gladly ride the trains to their gulags.

That would depend on air conditioning, leg room and lavatory availability.

227 posted on 07/18/2009 2:41:42 PM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a this "Health" Bill--or lose reelection)
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To: Empireoftheatom48
I’m afraid the present government would never relinquish it’s power by peaceful means.

You're on the list now. You RADICAL you.

228 posted on 07/18/2009 2:41:55 PM PDT by NotSoModerate
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To: Datahead

That was a few. Million? No way in hell.


229 posted on 07/18/2009 2:42:35 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Jim Robinson

YES!!!!!!!

Dismantle DC!


230 posted on 07/18/2009 2:44:10 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Jim Robinson
1.Organize a network of resistance leadership ( people in power, business, gov't, military, lawyers, talk radio pundits etc.)

2. Draft a Declaration of Resistance to Restore the Republic, ( similar to the Declaration of Independence) written collectively by these leaders, to be signed by MILLIONS of citizens, with actual confirmed signatures

2. Publish a textbook of action , including new ways to confront leaders, organize harrassment teams to personally confront senators and congressmen at all levels of government in all states dog them like the poparazzi go after celebrities, devise methods to force media accountability, establish a media propaganda watchdog group

marches are largly ignored and easily mocked by the media

231 posted on 07/18/2009 2:47:08 PM PDT by KTM rider ( revolution is the only thing that can save us now)
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To: Travis McGee

I did not vote for this guy who wants to destroy what we have and replace it with his image of utopia. That is not what he proposed either. He is the wolf in the suit.


232 posted on 07/18/2009 2:47:37 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama - The wolf in the suit.)
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To: Jim Robinson

we would probably litter


233 posted on 07/18/2009 2:50:16 PM PDT by CHATTAB
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To: Jim Robinson

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234 posted on 07/18/2009 2:54:07 PM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: seekthetruth
Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF IMBECILES LIKE PELOSI CAN CONGRESS, SO CAN WE!!!!!!!!!!!!

235 posted on 07/18/2009 2:54:51 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: mojitojoe
At the very least there should be political ratings on TV stations, movies and universities to undermine the brainwashing of the youth. Christian Universities and other institutions proclaim their intend proudly on the front of their buildings, commie institutions should be required to do the same.
236 posted on 07/18/2009 2:58:01 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: wastedyears

Not my first choice, but she is Secretary of State. No time to organize a presidential election and we must have a civilian commander-in-chief in place at all times starting the moment the treasonous B. Hussein Obama, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi are removed from office.


237 posted on 07/18/2009 3:00:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Empireoftheatom48
Yes !

at the same time we need to inform ourselves as to the parameters of what defines "terrorist threats" and "acts of terrorism" when speaking openly.

All other activities should be done in secret with a plan of how to communicate secretly

238 posted on 07/18/2009 3:00:53 PM PDT by KTM rider ( revolution is the only thing that can save us now)
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To: mojitojoe

It’s pleasant to think about the IRS not being able to pay salaries...because several million taxpayers stiffed them.


239 posted on 07/18/2009 3:01:25 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Lady Liberty is Kitty Genovese, right outside our windows.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Um... most folk who work for someone else for a living tend to withhold about enough to pay the taxes, so they don’t have to dig deep in April (after paying off the kid’s Christmas)... so what is it you’re proposing here?


240 posted on 07/18/2009 3:04:51 PM PDT by glock rocks (... just tryin to make do ...)
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