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Is Obama’s presidency threatened? [Birth Certificate]
The Delhi Statesman ^ | July 18, 2009 | Rajinder Puri

Posted on 07/18/2009 2:47:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Even while US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pursues her five-day visit to India, an event has occurred in the USA that could conceivably snowball into a major controversy to cut short President Obama’s tenure. Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution states: “No person except a US born citizen… shall be eligible to the office of President.”

During the last US campaign a controversy arose about Obama’s birthplace. Critics were unsure if he was born in the USA or Kenya. Obama’s campaign committee released a Hawaiian birth certificate on 13 June, 2008. Sceptics alleged that it had signs of forgery.

Obama maintained he was born in Hawaii. One hospital, Honolulu ‘s Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children, claims it received a letter from the President declaring his birth there. But White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs refused to authenticate the letter. For nearly six months the hospital proudly declared Obama was born at its facility to create poll hype. Later it covered up and refused to confirm if the letter actually existed. The letter was purportedly signed by Barak Obama. If the signature was forged it was a most serious offence. Was any action taken against the Hospital?

This week the controversy about Obama’s birthplace resurfaced dramatically. A US Army Reserve, Major Stefan Frederick Cook, scheduled for deployment to Afghanistan, refused to serve claiming that the order was illegal because the American President was not legitimate. He argued that he should not be required to serve under a President who has not proven his eligibility for office. “As an officer in the armed forces of the United States, it is my duty to gain clarification on any order we may believe illegal. With that said, if President Obama is found not to be a ‘natural-born citizen,’ he is not eligible to be commander-in-chief,” Major Cook said. “Then any order coming out of the presidency or his chain of command is illegal. Should I deploy, I would essentially be following an illegal order. If I happened to be captured by the enemy in a foreign land, I would not be privy to the Geneva Convention protections.”

The military created shock waves by revoking the deployment order without giving any reasons. Thereby it evaded a reply to Major Cook’s objection and implicitly acknowledged that it could offer no proof of President Obama’s birth in the USA. If the military cannot vouch for President Obama’s legitimacy the implications can be very far-reaching. Major Cook’s case is being heard in the court of US District Judge David O Carter. The judge told the plaintiffs to fix their paperwork and that he would listen to “the merits” of their case. The date of the hearing was fixed for 16 July.

It is unlikely that the US mainstream media will highlight the event. But regardless of the judge’s verdict, will the issue die? If it snowballs into a crisis America could face a cruel choice. While it battles a severe economic meltdown it may have to either remove a most popular President or violate its Constitution.


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To: Fred

How about just wanting to get the TRUTH out there?? Our Military is courageous.


41 posted on 07/18/2009 4:58:43 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We can only hope so.If only for the Sake of our country.


42 posted on 07/18/2009 4:59:38 AM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the Dogs.)
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To: SpaceBar

Can someone post the “REAL” birth Certificate?? AND the COLB?


43 posted on 07/18/2009 4:59:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Marty

If a foreign government had documents that could show O is ineligible, such as Pakistan having his passport from his trip in the 80’s, could they then blackmail the President of the United States?

You betcha they could - and would!!!


44 posted on 07/18/2009 5:01:40 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
He is NOT a God
45 posted on 07/18/2009 5:01:50 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Venturer

To be accurate, it wasn’t Lou Dobbs but his regular female fillin


46 posted on 07/18/2009 5:02:03 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Have you girded your loins today??????)
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To: PowerPro
Anyone who thinks that the COLB is a REAL Birth Certificate is FOOLING THEMSELVES!!

All BC's have the DOCTOR"S NAME....the PARENTS NAME and ADDRESS and OCCUPATION....the TIME...usually the lenght and weight.....etc.

47 posted on 07/18/2009 5:08:57 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Fred

What would happen if hundreds of thousands of active duty personnel, in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan, sudden began challenging their orders because they did not believe that Obama was legally qualified to be CIC?


48 posted on 07/18/2009 5:09:29 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

About Queens Hospital -

Can someone find the information where Obama says he was born from Queen’s hospital instead of quoting the rumor mill.

I saw a discussion that it was his sister that said it...and the Dems claim his sister was misquoted by the student doing the article.

I cant find any direct source where Obama states he was born at Queens.


49 posted on 07/18/2009 5:12:52 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not Uh, oh , it’s Ya Hoo. Way to go baby!!!


50 posted on 07/18/2009 5:15:17 AM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: RummyChick

We need to find the video of the freezing day in February of 07 where Obama used the words Queens Hospital.


51 posted on 07/18/2009 5:15:29 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

HEre is the video of where he supposedly says Queens Hospital.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdJ7Ad15WCA

Watching it now to see if he says it.


52 posted on 07/18/2009 5:19:21 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: PowerPro

I know red flag, red flag. I have know since I was 3 years old where I was born that is what hospital


53 posted on 07/18/2009 5:19:48 AM PDT by mel
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean

That may all happen if they do not hear the case... and maybe worse.

LLS


54 posted on 07/18/2009 5:23:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: imjimbo; mommyq

You are both correct. I fully understand your anger and frustration - I share it. We should all have to abide under the rule of law. However, things don’t seem work that way anymore. Don’t believe me? Ask the GM bondholders. I don’t believe we are going to get any answers from the court. It’s not about being defeatist. It’s merely my assessment of the situation. Jimbo is right. We are under attack. But, I do not believe we are going to win this war using this tactic. If you see a path where this goes to the SCOTUS and comes out in our favor - then by all means pursue it. I will even help you.
I am more concerned about Nationalized health care and cap and trade at this moment - because I see potential for victory in these areas. I don’t think we are going to win this war by a knockout punch - we are going to have to slug this out one fight at a time.-—JM

For the record: I am on your side. I would like nothing better than for you to prove me wrong. Eating my own words on this would be a joy!


55 posted on 07/18/2009 5:24:04 AM PDT by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: RummyChick

Still listening to the video BUT it may be the book where he supposedly said the bit about Queens Hospital.

Audacity of Hope. The UPI story is not clear about where he claimed it.

Anyone got the book to check it?


56 posted on 07/18/2009 5:25:07 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Diogenesis
You keep posting that picture, but you need to include Levin and Limbaugh. They seem to be avoiding the issue too.

ML/NJ

57 posted on 07/18/2009 5:34:00 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: mommyq

Sotomayor will be on the court in October. That will not change when Obama is removed, which will come after October. She will be confirmed by the senate.


58 posted on 07/18/2009 5:34:43 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Again, the Indian reporter and most comments reveal that the media, and Obama, have succeeded in in misdirecting the issue. Obama’s birth certificate, or lack thereof, have only a peripheral relationship to his ineligibility. Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen. Dozens of supreme court cases, and the 14th amendment, refer to the ‘term-of-art’ definition of a natural born citizen. To be a natural born citizen, besides being born on US soil, both parents must be citizens. To simply avoid facing this fact, a brick from our foundation of laws, because he won the election, confirms Obama’s public statements about the holes in the constitution, and its value as, primarily, an historical artifact. He is saying clearly that it is irrelevant.

The founders inserted the ‘natural-born’ clause to insure that the president and vice president, the only two people in the world to whom it applies, have the allegiance to the principles necessary for the survival of our government. Obama is saying “Hear This; I will make you all equal - don't doubt me!”

59 posted on 07/18/2009 5:35:56 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: real_patriotic_american

I would add that Bill Richardson called Obama an immigrant. The youtube clip was posted here.


60 posted on 07/18/2009 5:36:58 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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