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"Brotherhood" Invited To Obama Speech By U.S.
The Alantic ^ | 06/03/09 | Marc Ambinder

Posted on 06/03/2009 1:58:44 PM PDT by markedmannerf

A sign that the Obama administration is willing to publicly challenge Egypt's commitment to parliamentary democracy: various Middle Eastern news sources report that the administration insisted that at least 10 members of the Muslim Brotherhood, the country's chief opposition party, be allowed to attend his speech in Cairo on Thursday. The brotherhood is a Salafist/ Islamist party with branches in many countries, and it does not have a reputation for liberalism and has supported violent campaigns against Israel (and Egypt's own government). It has deep roots in the region and traces its intellectual lineage to Sayyid Qutb, a top American-educated Islamic intellectual who was executed -- or martyred -- by the Egyptian government in 1966. The Brotherhood has direct links with Sunni groups like Hamas in the Palestinian territories. Its standing in Egypt has suffered as of late because of a crackdown by the Egyptian government and a growing frustration that it is too conservative (anti-women's rights, the whole gamut) for a modern Middle East. Still, it's the largest Sunni opposition party in the world, and it's clear that the Obama administration wants to engage the Sunnis -- even the less moderate Sunnis -- in his "Mutual Respect" tour. Hoping to tamp down criticism that by speaking in Egypt, Obama is giving legitimacy to Hosni Mubarak's quasi-dictatorship, the administration also invited leading human rights activists to the speech.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; democrats; egypt; hamas; hategroup; husseinobama; impeachobama; iran; islamicimperialism; islamicsupremacists; jihadists; mb; muslim; muslimbrotherhood; obama; proterrorist; qutb; waronterror
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To: markedmannerf

This is what the MB did in the UK and Europe. It is fiannced by the Saudis and Obama has close links with MB.


41 posted on 06/03/2009 2:50:31 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: All
More on the connection between Hamas & the Muslim Brotherhood from the U.S. Dept. of State...

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2007/103714.htm
The Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS)
a.k.a. Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiya; Izz al-Din al Qassam Battalions; Izz al-Din al Qassam Brigades; Students of Ayyash; Student of the Engineer; Yahya Ayyash Units ; Izz al-Din al-Qassim Brigades; Izz al-Din al-Qassim Forces; Izz al-Din al-Qassim Battalions; Izz al-Din al Qassam Forces

Description: HAMAS, which includes military and political wings, was formed at the onset of the first Palestinian uprising or Intifada in late 1987, as an outgrowth of the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. The armed element, called the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, conducts anti-Israeli attacks, including suicide bombings against civilian targets inside Israel. HAMAS also manages a broad, mostly Gaza-based network of “Dawa” or ministry activities that include charities, schools, clinics, youth camps, fund-raising, and political activities. A Shura council based in Damascus, Syria, sets overall policy. After winning Palestinian Legislative Council elections in January 2006, HAMAS took control of significant Palestinian Authority (PA) ministries, including the Ministry of Interior. HAMAS subsequently formed an expanded, overt militia called the Executive Force, subordinate to the Ministry. This force and other HAMAS cadres took control of Gaza in a military-style coup in June 2007, forcing Fatah forces to either leave Gaza or go underground there.

Activities: Prior to 2005, HAMAS conducted numerous anti-Israeli attacks, including suicide bombings, rocket launches, improvised explosive device (IED) attacks, and shootings. HAMAS, however, has not directly targeted U.S. interests, although the group makes little or no effort to avoid soft targets frequented by foreigners. The group curtailed terrorist attacks in February 2005, after agreeing to a temporary period of calm brokered by the PA, and ceased most violence after winning control of the PA legislature and cabinet in January 2006. After HAMAS staged a June 2006 attack on IDF soldiers near Kerem Shalom that resulted in two deaths and the abduction of Corporal Gilad Shalit, Israel took steps that severely limited the operation of the Rafah crossing. HAMAS maintained and expanded its military capabilities in 2007. In June 2007, HAMAS took control of Gaza from the PA and Fatah in a military-style coup, leading to an international boycott and closure of Gaza borders. HAMAS has since dedicated the majority of its activity in Gaza to solidifying its control, hardening its defenses, tightening security, and conducting limited operations against Israeli military forces.

HAMAS fired rockets from Gaza into Israel in 2007 but focused more mortar on attacks targeting Israeli incursions. Additionally, other terrorist groups in Gaza fired rockets into Israel, most, presumably, with HAMAS support or acquiescence. HAMAS internal security efforts have centered on confronting threats to the group’s hold on power, including arrest operations against Fatah. In June 2007, HAMAS took control of Gaza, leading to a drawn-out struggle between HAMAS and supporters of Fatah. The majority of HAMAS activity in Gaza is directed at solidifying their control over Gaza and weakening Fatah through kidnappings, torture, and the use of the “Executive Force” as a de-facto security apparatus. The continued international boycott and perceived efforts to destroy HAMAS have increased anti-U.S. sentiment on the Palestinian street, a development that could lead cells affiliated with HAMAS to launch attacks, including suicide bombings, without the sanction of HAMAS’ senior leadership.

Strength: HAMAS probably has several hundred operatives in its armed wing, the al-Qassam Brigades, along with its reported 9,000-man Executive Force and tens of thousands of supporters and sympathizers.

Location/Area of Operation: HAMAS has an operational presence in every major city in the Palestinian territories and currently focuses its anti-Israeli attacks on targets in the West Bank and within Israel. HAMAS could potentially activate operations in Lebanon or resume terrorist operations in Israel. The group retains a cadre of leaders and facilitators that conducts diplomatic, fundraising, and arms smuggling activities in Lebanon, Syria, and other states. HAMAS is also increasing its presence in the Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, probably with the goal of eclipsing Fatah’s long-time dominance of the camps.

External Aid: HAMAS receives some funding, weapons, and training from Iran. In addition, fundraising takes place in the Gulf countries, but the group also receives donations from Palestinian expatriates around the world and private benefactors in Arab states. Some fundraising and propaganda activity takes place in Western Europe and North America.

42 posted on 06/03/2009 2:51:49 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: G8 Diplomat

His campaign, insiders and others are very close with the MB which is financed by the Saudis.


43 posted on 06/03/2009 2:53:17 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: markedmannerf

I wonder which one of zero’s toadies was tasked with bringing the prayer rug and the koran along on the apology tour?


44 posted on 06/03/2009 2:55:08 PM PDT by taillightchaser (!)
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To: a fool in paradise

The War on Terror is not over. Obama is waging it against his own country (not Kenya, his adopted country of the United States).


45 posted on 06/03/2009 2:55:53 PM PDT by doug from upland (10 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: stylecouncilor

Sayyid Qutb


46 posted on 06/03/2009 2:56:10 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: markedmannerf
the Arugula Latte is a useless eater / terrorist enabler...

47 posted on 06/03/2009 2:58:09 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: markedmannerf

Unbelievable.


48 posted on 06/03/2009 2:58:42 PM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: markedmannerf

What a stain on the Nation, is Huseein Obama.


49 posted on 06/03/2009 3:06:16 PM PDT by BlackjackPershing (“The patriot's blood is the seed of Freedom's tree” - Thomas Campbell (Scottish poet))
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To: All; jveritas; FARS

I’m not sure if people realize that the Muslim Brotherhood is what spawned Osama bin Laden. I want people to realize that the Muslim Brotherhood is not confined to Egypt and Palestine either. There are branches in all parts of the Middle East, Africa (including the Sudan, and Somalia), Indonesia, even the US has groups with ties to the MB.

The Muslim Brotherhood preaches Jihad as OBLIGATORY, and claims that hatred of all non-Muslims will bring them closer to Allah.

It should also be noted that in all parts of the world the Muslim Brotherhood have “spawned” not only Al-Qaeda, and Hamas, but there are numerous jihadist groups that have “splintered” from the Muslim Brotherhood, but the jihadist groups themselves still claim they are part of the whole.

Simply INVITING members of the MB is a HUGE statement, especially after his words in France yesterday saying that the US is a Muslim nation... Expect his speech to include plenty of code-speak, and expect his press secretary Gibbels to say he “mis-spoke”.

I really wish I knew Arabic so that we could see how the White House chooses to translate it, vs. what we are hearing in English.

Jveritas & FARS, I think both of you are fluent in Arabic, right? I think it would be a good idea if either one of you, or perhaps another FReeper who has time, and knowledge of Arabic should examine the speech as translated into Arabic, and of course, sharing your insight as to how it is “heard” in the Muslim world would be very valuable I think as well... I just immediately thought of the both of you as people who may be interested in doing this, and have the requisite skills, IIRC! :)


50 posted on 06/03/2009 3:15:24 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: markedmannerf

51 posted on 06/03/2009 3:15:27 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: a fool in paradise

>The President is betraying his oath of office to defend this nation.<

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Are all those congressmen who support him not just as guilty of treason? They too swore an oath.


52 posted on 06/03/2009 3:16:23 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Lou Budvis

One of the countries Obama is pi$$ing off may just come up with his authentic BC or information on where it can be found.


53 posted on 06/03/2009 3:21:44 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: markedmannerf
Islamic intellectual

Isn't that an oxymaroon?

54 posted on 06/03/2009 3:22:16 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: markedmannerf
The MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD?!Q? He has really lost it this time... this time Hosni Mubarak is the Shah
shaking head
55 posted on 06/03/2009 3:24:15 PM PDT by Nat Turner (Proud two term solider in the 2nd Infantry Div 84-85; 91-92)
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To: a fool in paradise

I think you underestimate the seriousness of the situation.

It isn’t just that zero has violated his oath of office by declaring the WoT over. Zero is delivering this nation into Marxist slavery at breathtaking speed.

Stupid, foolhardy dem voters are responsible for this. They were too stupid and uneducated to avoid being swayed by the 15-20% hard left movement. Now that zero has power, he is dismantling any and all power or influential bases the conservatives have. With his immigration policies effected by Holder and the efforts of ACORN, we will suffer Dem Party rule for the next 50 years, if not forever.


56 posted on 06/03/2009 3:24:32 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: 353FMG

I have never feared for my country like I do now.

I believe only an act of G_d can save our nation at this point.


57 posted on 06/03/2009 3:26:41 PM PDT by Califreak (Stammer Lee, TOTUS and Beltway Bob have turned 1600 into a circus)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
A sign that the Obama administration is willing to publicly challenge Egypt's commitment to parliamentary democracy: various Middle Eastern news sources report that the administration insisted that at least 10 members of the Muslim Brotherhood, the country's chief opposition party, be allowed to attend his speech in Cairo on Thursday. The brotherhood is a Salafist/ Islamist party with branches in many countries, and it does not have a reputation for liberalism and has supported violent campaigns against Israel (and Egypt's own government).

58 posted on 06/03/2009 3:32:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: markedmannerf; SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; ...

The list, ping


59 posted on 06/03/2009 3:35:13 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: LibertyRocks
that Muslims will be paying "special attention to his exact words" citing interviewed Egyptian citizens. We should as well -- if you don't understand something why he phrases things in a certain way, don't attribute it to stupidity or "nerves".

I think that is a downfall we even have here on FR. He says something, slips up, and we act stunned, dismissive. I feel like that old Catholic Nun with the pointer/yardstick banging on the sleeping students desk. WAKE UP!

Everyone, everyone is acting all puzzled over his remark to the French interviewer. We are in such denial. We say, "Why would he lie about Islam in the US?" It wasn't about the factuality of what he said. By calling the United States a Muslim nation in the context that he used, he signaled our willing submission.

Nightmare, nightmare! We're running around watching socialist/marxist/fascists crush our country and now I wonder if it is just a tactic and not the end, but the opening of the bottomless pit.

I wonder if the liberals, leftists, progressives, democrats actually know they may not be getting their socialism, but something much worse.

Someone up thread asked why 10 from the MB. And the only thing that came to mind was the Dragon and the Beast from Revelations. Crazy, crazy thoughts I know. We have been taught to read Revelations into our "Christian" world, but it really isn't about "our world." Rev 12:, Dan 7:21, Rev 13:. It is about an interaction in another world.

The Dragon and the Beast and the expediency of 0bama's agenda. Pravda called it 'breakneck speed.'

60 posted on 06/03/2009 3:50:24 PM PDT by EBH (I am not your comrade, nor sheeple, nor surf or slave; but a Freeman.)
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