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UK: Gypsies smash £5m police helicopter w/ axes in revenge for 'spy' flights
DailyMail.uk ^ | 14th May 2009 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 05/14/2009 6:54:16 AM PDT by yankeedame

Gypsies smash £5million police helicopter with axes in revenge for 'spy' flights

A group of travellers wrecked a multi-million pound police helicopter...

...after they leapt over a 4ft wall surrounding Surrey Police force’s helipad...

After threatening staff working in the operations room, they set about wrecking the helicopter, smashing six of its windows and causing tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage.


Vandalism: A group of travellers wrecked Surrey's only police
helicopter (pictured). Worth £5million, it was being used to spy on
their site

The incident happened at 10pm yesterday after weeks of aerial surveillance on the travellers’ site, where detectives believe stolen goods have been hidden.

Officers were getting ready to raid the site after collecting evidence they had filmed from the air. A police source said last night: '...no one expected this level of violence...'

The helicopter...is expected to be out of action for another two weeks while repairs are made....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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To: Lurker

Racist! LOL


21 posted on 05/14/2009 7:13:16 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: nevergore

Tramps and Thieves.


22 posted on 05/14/2009 7:14:52 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: luvbach1
Gypsies do steal, and that’s a fact.

Boy,I found that out the hard way in Rome (several hundred US dollars were in my wallet).Also,a story that would be funny if it wasn't so disgusting......

Years ago I worked in a major Boston hospital.One of the staff nurses in the unit where I worked had previously been the night shift nursing supervisor for the hospital's medical wards.She told me a story of how one night,while she was walking down a hallway,she watched a group of gypsies...who had been "keeping vigil" for one of their hospitalized members (they do that)...carting off a brand new...and very expensive...EKG machine.She said that,as far as she knows,they were never caught.

23 posted on 05/14/2009 7:16:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: massgopguy

Aww, you beat me to it. ;>)


24 posted on 05/14/2009 7:22:47 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

You have serious problems if you really believe that.


25 posted on 05/14/2009 7:29:25 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Lurker
In the US the Travelers are largely of Irish descent.

My understanding is that "travelers" are a problem in Ireland and the UK.Don't know if they're a problem in other parts of Europe but the Romanian/Hungarian *gypsies* sure as hell are.

I didn't know that there were "travelers" in this country.And idea where they are?

26 posted on 05/14/2009 7:29:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: luvbach1; A_Former_Democrat
The reference here uses the UK term "travelers". These folks are not "Vlach" Gypsies ~ rather, they are indigenous to the UK.

A history lesson is in order. Way back when England began consolidating gains throughout its "near abroad" empire (consisting of Scotland, the Hebrides, the Orkneys and Ireland) they passed what are called the "Enclosure Laws".

These laws allowed wealthy land owners to "enclose land" to raise sheep (which simply can't be allowed to run loose in UK, that being a very populous part of the world).

The landowners could reduce the number of tenants on that land as farming technology was improving at the time, AND, best of all, simply toss squatters outside the fences into the public roadway.

These actions were definitely unpopular with the masses of poor rural people who then had no choice but to move to urban areas and seek employment in industry, then operated in factories just this side of hellholes.

The lucky ones could get jobs in coalmines or as prostitutes.

Definitely NOT a good time to live in Merry Olde England. Many Freepers have ancestors who left the Old World at that time to come to America, and they never looked back.

There arose a small group of folks living in the "border regions" (where England and Scotland join) who appear to have joined up with real Vlach Gypsies who'd been arriving in UK since the early 1600s. The Vlach, themselves, consisting mostly of a mixed group of Latin speaking people and Romany, built up a well-deserved reputation for petty theft, strong arm robbery, and independence.

For a variety of reasons (intense poverty, better roads, and desperation) the Border people became the Travelers. When they first appeared in Ireland they continued the same practice ~ living on the road, working on pots and pans, singing and dancing ~ and obtained even more adherents. These people have a colony in the United States in the state of South Carolina. They are known as "The Murphies".

Most Traveler groups are so similar to Gypsies in their way of life and use of the Romany language they can be said to have adhered to the Romnachel way of life.

It would be wrong to say that this is in any way a question of "diversity". These guys are as English as their more settled cousins who live in nice suburbs in nice houses and hold whitecollar jobs. Same bloodlines, DNA, ethnicity ~ all same, same.

27 posted on 05/14/2009 7:30:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gay State Conservative

Different Gypsies.


28 posted on 05/14/2009 7:31:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: luvbach1

It’s not an euphemism. That’s what they are called ~ Travelers!


29 posted on 05/14/2009 7:31:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gay State Conservative
.And idea where they are?

There's a large very insular Irish Traveler community in Florida. When their 'season' starts they blanket the country pulling their roofing and construction scams. They mostly prey on the elderly.

After they've 'made' their money they return to Florida for a few months, marry off their daughters, relax for a month or two, and then they're back on the road.

L

30 posted on 05/14/2009 7:33:22 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Murphy Village, SC is their base of operations IIRC.


31 posted on 05/14/2009 7:33:30 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: Gay State Conservative

The travelers in the US have the last name of Williams, they are HQ somewhere in North Carolina, where they actually have “winter quarters”, some in very nice compounds.

Spring to fall, they hit the road, hitting up unsuspecting homeowners for bogus driveway, home, and roof repairs, many times targeting senior citizens. Their female members go in and rob senior’s homes while the seniors are distracted at the front door by accomplices.

They have been around for fifty years or so.

You have been warned.


32 posted on 05/14/2009 7:34:17 AM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

The “Gypsies” or “travellers” referred to in the article are ethnically Irish.


33 posted on 05/14/2009 7:34:22 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Oh,c’mon.You can say that because you don't have them in your neck of the woods.Do the Maoris or Cook Islanders have any equivalent to gypsies? If they do,what's your attitude toward them? And as for police helicopters...yah,it could be true that their main purpose is to issue traffic tickets but I'll wager that they,at least occasionally,are used for far more important things.
34 posted on 05/14/2009 7:35:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thank you for the information!


35 posted on 05/14/2009 7:35:22 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: GOPsterinMA
Reading through an extensive review of "Snatch" the core group, the illegal boxing match folks, are Travelers. However, this is about "the London Crime Underworld" so there are Vlach, and Bijali involved.

Alhough the Nazis liked to popularize the term "bijali" and thereby gave it a negative cachet (particualarly when they went on and killed all of 'em they could catch), there are people descended from the Indian Rom who live in Russia, but they are extraordinarily "white". That's due to adoptions, intermarriage and what appears to have been simply a case of other groups in Russia "joining" the Romany (usually for survival, just as with the original Travelers).

So, the answer is, "yes, same, same", but "also, more different kinds".

36 posted on 05/14/2009 7:38:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: yankeedame
Well, if the moslems can live under Sharia law in the UK, this misbehavior should also be adjudicated by an external authority...


37 posted on 05/14/2009 7:38:29 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: exit82; kaylar; Lurker
Hmmm...interesting.Yes,I've heard of the driveway and roofing scams.I've also heard of the scams where a crowd of them enter a store and “razzle dazzle” the staff and then,in the confusion,make off with the goods.But I thought that those were Eastern European gypsies...not the Irish ones.
38 posted on 05/14/2009 7:39:55 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: AnAmericanMother
A better spelling is "gadje". BTW, in this area I seem to look very much like their lead attorney. All Gypsy groups have lawyers ~ usually non-Gypsies who have an interest in them.

Consequently I am regularly paid alms by Gypsies.

39 posted on 05/14/2009 7:40:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: luvbach1
"Gypsies do steal, and that’s a fact."

Mom (bless her soul) used to say that they steal babies too.

40 posted on 05/14/2009 7:41:17 AM PDT by blam
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