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Official: 5 Killed After U.S. Service Member Opens Fire on Iraq Base (Shooter in Custody)
Cnn. ^ | May 11 2009

Posted on 05/11/2009 7:17:54 AM PDT by boxerblues

Edited on 05/11/2009 8:48:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Updated with direct link.


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; campliberty; fallen; fragging; iraq; johnrussell; military; soldiers; suicide
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To: cookcounty
The Virginia Tech killer was a graduate student

No, he was an undergrad (a senior, probably having trouble facing the fact that a patently insane person like himself was certainly never going to be able to get a job after graduation).

81 posted on 05/11/2009 9:02:13 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: penelopesire
"Fox is reporting that the shooter is in custody."

I just heard that on radio news also.

82 posted on 05/11/2009 9:03:10 AM PDT by Spunky (Quit breathing! You are causing global warming.)
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To: boxerblues

CNN really playing up the ‘stressed out’ angle. News conference from DOD at 2:00 pm. CNN now saying the shooter is in custody. CNN says they don’t know if he was a patient at the clinic or not..yet they are reporting that he was likely a ‘stressed out’ soldier. That seems like they are reporting their opinions as facts.

God how I hate our media!!


83 posted on 05/11/2009 9:05:24 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire
From AP, Official: soldier shooting was at 'stress clinic'

"Pentagon officials say five Americans are dead after a U.S. soldier opened fire at a U.S. base in Baghdad. They say the attacker is in custody.

The officials say the shootings happened on Camp Liberty at a stress clinic, where troops can go for help with the stresses of combat or stress from personal issues.

One senior military official in Washington says it's unclear whether those killed are workers at the clinic or were there for counseling. He says officials also are unsure whether all the dead are members of the military.".................
84 posted on 05/11/2009 9:06:47 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: ValerieTexas

BTT


85 posted on 05/11/2009 9:10:32 AM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Allegra

I’n glad you are okay!
*HUG*
We gonna meet in Texas in October?
;0)


86 posted on 05/11/2009 9:11:50 AM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Girlene

Thanks for the link. I am busy with my ill mom this morning and cannot follow the news very close.

Prayers for the families of those involved.It is very sad.


87 posted on 05/11/2009 9:15:34 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: waterguard06
where he received a hero’s welcome from the troops.

It was rigged. His advance allowed only those who voted for him to be where he would be greeted.

88 posted on 05/11/2009 9:17:18 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: ZX12R

I have a real hard time believing this was done by an American soldier, even if they were under great stress. I could even understand shooting yourself, but to shoot other soldiers just for being around, is quite unbelievable. There has to be a big piece of this story missing.


89 posted on 05/11/2009 9:18:47 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Allegra

...glad to hear that you are SAFE. I was wondering!


90 posted on 05/11/2009 9:23:34 AM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: cookcounty
"The Virginia Tech killer was a graduate student"

A minor point, but actually: no, he was a Senior. An English major... and you know what those people are like! (Yes, I'm being sarcastic. Right now we know nothing about what went on in these killings, so there's no point supposing, which of course is exactly your point.)
91 posted on 05/11/2009 9:27:39 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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To: penelopesire

So, either the reporter who said that the shooter killed himself was wrong, or maybe he tried to kill himself but failed. Or . . . I guess we just have to wait until word gets out through channels more reliable than MSM reporters.


92 posted on 05/11/2009 9:34:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Allegra

Stay safe!!! And, THANK you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


93 posted on 05/11/2009 9:40:36 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012!)
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To: Cicero
I guess we just have to wait until word gets out through channels more reliable than MSM reporters.

Yeah. The MSM has an agenda. If it destroys our liberty - it's considered breaking news.

94 posted on 05/11/2009 9:42:21 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ZX12R

it happens. I saw it happen stateside firsthand in the mid 90’s. guy just lost his mother, thought his squad leader was picking on him, then all hell broke loose. he had a 12 gauge he bought off-post stashed in his wall locker. he shot two (one died, the other had buckshot in his jaw and arm and suffered nerve damage) then he shot himself in the latrine.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=894&dat=19950303&id=dyYOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mn0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6695,258767


95 posted on 05/11/2009 9:43:10 AM PDT by model B (attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference -- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: model B
then he shot himself in the latrine

Dang, that had to hurt. Last joker that aimed at my latrine is not around anymore.

96 posted on 05/11/2009 9:48:30 AM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: model B

Terrible, but the reality is that incidents like these are so rare as to be almost statistically insignificant.

Imagine the equation: # of armed U.S. forces or citizens X percent stressed out (definition?) X # of seconds X # of minutes X # hours X 365 days = number of incidents per year

The equation may need to be tweaked, but you get the picture. These stories are fodder for anti-human being liberals and the MSM (I repeat myself) to prove:

The US is bad, as are its people, too much freedom is dangerous, and guns are inherently dangerous, so just let us manage things for you, OK?


97 posted on 05/11/2009 9:57:46 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: All
What I hate in all these stories is the “explanation”

“The killers did this because ....”

followed by some condition, problem circumstance which invariably explains nothing because at any given time there are 5 million people with an identical condition, problem or circumstance who do not kill anyone.

“The shooter was upset about losing his job” explains nothing; 11 million other people are upset about losing there jobs also, but don't kill someone.”

Why is the obvious fact that the killer was an evil bad person not sufficient. Why can't people simply say he killed his family because he was an evil scum bag.

In a vast majority of these cases the perpetrator made a conscious decision to do something they absolutely knew to be wrong.
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In addition I have no real interest in what the killers biography is, I am not interested in any unfortunate events or difficulties which happened to them prior to the offense. The perpetrators childhood or other life experiences are no more relevant to what should be done to them, than whether a particular rabid dog was a good or bad pet, prior to their contracting rabies. The dog may have been a hero that saved a drowning child, what matters is that they are a danger to other animals and people and must be destroyed.
I can feel really bad for a killer and what happened to them that may have influenced or made them more likely to commit such an evil act, that doesn't mean I wouldn't pull the switch on the electric chair.

98 posted on 05/11/2009 10:02:11 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: boxerblues

Wow, I can’t wait to hear why this turd had his (I assume) panties in a wad. String him up, save the tax payers some dough.


99 posted on 05/11/2009 10:04:09 AM PDT by Dimez Apart (Absolute Infantry - Formerly Duncan Hunter '08 / Fred Thompson '08 / mccain PALIN '08)
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To: sportutegrl

More likely the soldier was burnt out from convoy duty; like riding in the point truck one time too many.


100 posted on 05/11/2009 10:15:42 AM PDT by Justa
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