[Last Dakotan]

Tell me again why I need to buy an expensive Glock.

[2harddrive]

Sounds like the criminal is the better shooter here!

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

The guy than runs the local range says the cops that come in there to qualify usually have mold growing inside of their weapons.

I keep mine clean, including my Glocks, and they don’t jam.

Period.

[Spktyr]

I suspect that this is a training issue, rather than a firearm issue. Replacing the magazines is a common manufacturer “feel good” measure.

*ALL* semiauto pistols can and will do this if you use them improperly. Including the 1911, Springfield XD, HK USP, etc., etc.

[bgill]

This vidal colon (yes, indeed, colons are important - don’t parents ever think?) needs to be charged with wasting taxpayer dollars. Firing 13 times when once should have done the trick.

[Squantos]

lack of training won’t make the officer any better with a 1500$ pistola !

[Daus]

Apparently both the perp and the cop were shooting from a prone position on the ground, they think that was part of the problem. The perp's gun jammed as well after his 6 shots.

I'm guessing this was not a shootout for use on future training films (for either side).

[devistate one four]

Ruger p98 works every time. It even passed the govs test for the armed forces, but the gov bought the Italian one.

[RKV]

I teach pistol marksmanship using Ruger Mk IIIs and Springfield XDs (9mm). The 10 NRA purchased pistols see thousands of rounds through them each year at our gun club. IF you use good ammo AND clean your weapon regularly FTE stovepipes are non-existent. Old weapons occasionally need an extractor and or springs replaced, but in the 3 years we’ve owned them, and thousands of rounds fire, this failure type is RARE.

[edpc]

Tell me again why I need to buy an expensive Glock.

You don't. You can have the same malfunction with any other manufactured automatic weapon. I've owned two Glocks, the 20 and 21. I've never had a problem with either. I can tell you, however, most "stovepipe" issues can be corrected with proper technique. You can take most automatics, shoot with "soft hands" and have it happen with regularity.

The only weapon I've been frustrated with was a Kahr PM45. For the first couple hundred rounds, it stovepiped constantly no matter what I did. It also was a thumb-killer on the slide release. Once it went through a break in period, it functioned just fine.

[Sudetenland]

Glocks are among the least expensive handguns. They have an unparalleled record for dependability under all conditions and in any weather, but even the best gun will malfunction if the user is incompetent.

Definitely sounds like a case of limp-wristing to me...that or a bad round.

I've got a buddy who owns a beautiful Baer compact .45. A couple of weeks ago he bought some premium Gold Dot ammo and discovered 4 rounds with split casings in one of the boxes.

Stuff happens...always check your ammo.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

I’ve known many cops who were terrible about gun maintainence, I’ve seen green corroded cases in many magazines. On top of that I wouldn’t personally own a Glock if you gave me one. There is no substitute for practice and training, and it helps if someone is serious about mastering marksmanship.

[sticker]

The cure for stovepiping:

[HotLead61]

My Glock has never jammed, but then again, I keep it clean and hold it tightly.

[Eye of Unk]

My first thought was that the LEO is using lighter than normal “green” pills, er, bullets such as all copper ones that Kalifornia requires, as a reloader, gunsmith and an owner of quite a few types of handguns I have usually seen stovepipes occur with reduced charges or very light bullets especially frangibles, also is the recoil spring that is either too weak or too strong, occasionally it may be old stiff grease in the slides and cold weather.
As I said first and this applies to using the lead free bullets the all copper ones are lighter and may not generate enough recoil on the slide to make it cycle properly, there is data in reloading to change the powder burn rate to help this, and yes limp wristing is usually the culprit.

I like Glocks, I like Sigs even more, and I am no expert so what I say is not something to print just my experience.

[Damifino]

Colon fired his gun 13 times

Hate to slam the officer but it seems he would be well served to spend some quality time at the range.

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

"We had experienced a number of issues on the range with our issued Glock model 22, .40 caliber

That's my model and it works just fine. I've only had it a few months but I've put several thousand rounds through it already. Keep it clean as a whistle.

[RobinOfKingston]

I wonder if the cop was packing a ‘throw-down’ he could fall back on.

[garyhope]

Thanks to the many Freepers who answered my question about “limp wristing”.

If you need information about weapons and computers, Freerepublic is the place to go.

Thank God, I didn’t have to go to a gay bar for the answer.

[Armedanddangerous]

Ive had glocks for years, and I cannot envision how a glock mag could cause a stovepipe.

It just doesnt make sense.

Has to be dirty guns, limp wristing shooters or cheap reloaded ammo.

[SeminoleSoldier]

Solved by a brush, boresnake, and a bottle of solvent.