Posted on 03/24/2009 2:39:22 PM PDT by truthnomatterwhat
Is this the change you really voted for? President Obama has only been in office for two months. Now we have HR 1388. The Bill was sponsored by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) with 37 others. The Bill was introduced to the floor of the House of Representatives where both Republicans and Democrats voted 321-105 in favor. Next it goes to the Senate for a vote and then on to President Obama.
This bill’s title is called “Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education” (GIVE). It forms what some are calling “Obama’s Youth Brigade.” Obama’s plan is require anyone receiving school loans and others to serve at least three months as part of the brigade. His goal is one million youth! This has serious Nazi Germany overtones to it.
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Not sure I get your hmmmmmm, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
The wording is taken from the Americorps rules, but with a more vague and therefore sinister meaning:
Can an AmeriCorps member engage in political or religious activities in his or her official capacity as an AmeriCorps member?
There are certain activities including lobbying, political, religious or advocacy activities that AmeriCorps Members and staff may NOT perform in the course of their duties while charging time to the AmeriCorps program, or at the request of program staff. Furthermore, members and staff may not engage in any conduct in a manner that would associate the National Service Program or the Corporation with the prohibited activities. Programs must become familiar with the specific prohibitions in the Corporation’s formal regulations (45 C.F.R. B2520.30) and the grant provisions. The list of prohibited activities* includes:
• Participating in efforts to influence legislation, including lobbying for your program.
• Organizing a letter-writing campaign to Congress.
• Engaging in partisan political activities, or other activities designed to influence the outcome of an election to any public office.
• Participating in, or endorsing, events or activities that are likely to include advocacy for or against political parties, political platforms, political candidates, proposed legislation, or elected officials.
• Printing politically charged articles in a Corporation-funded newsletter or list serve.
• Taking part in political demonstrations or rallies.
• Engaging in any efforts to influence legislation, including state or local ballot initiatives.
• Voter registration drives.
• Organizing or participating in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.
• Assisting or deterring union organizing.
• Impairing existing contracts or collective bargaining agreements
• Religious activities, including engaging in religious instruction; conducting worship services; providing instruction as part of a Program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship; constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship; maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship; or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.
• Activities that pose a significant safety risk to participants.
• Assignments that displace employees.
• Placement of members into internships with for-profit business as part of the education and training component of the program.
• Providing assistance to a business organized for profit.
• Raising funds for an A*Corps stipend.
• Raising funds for an organization’s operating expenses or endowment.
• Writing grant applications for AmeriCorps funding or for any other funding provided by the Corporation for National and Community Service.
• Writing grant applications for funding provided by any other federal agencies.
• Administrative work, unless it benefits the member’s approved direct service activities.
*However, AmeriCorps members, like private citizens, may participate in lobbying, political, or advocacy activities on their own time, at their own expense, and at their own initiative. Members may not wear AmeriCorps service gear in such instances.
The above came from this link:
http://students.berkeley.edu/files/osl/Cal_Corps/Students/Programs/AmeriCorps%20No%20Nos.doc
“There is even a provision in the bill for uniforms.”
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
Scroll down.
This amounts to a cool $6 billion to groups like La Raza and Acorn to pay and militarize their minions. We will live to regret it if we take this lying down.
It looks to me at a very brief glance as prohibiting the volunteers from conducting anything resembling a religious service. That would be a good thing (in a basically bad bill).
It’s in the Obama Youth Catalog on page 6 — right next to the Obama Youth Tech 9 and just above the Obama Youth Machete.
Contemplative
This, then, condemns their activities as secularist proselytizers.
(I’m not sure how much good this is gonna do since while proofreading I noticed your tagline... but just in case)
It would be a good idea to read the legislation before you make that judgement. The bill is aimed toward mandatory involvement by schoolchildren in public school and kids in college. It was listed as mandatory on Obama’s original whitehouse page then sanitized once word got around but the bill is still aimed in that direction.
The attached amendment says what it says. If it is truly “mandatory volunteerism” (an oxymoron) then this is close to Nazi Germany. Take a look at the news...
“That link proves nothing. I want to read a paragraph or a page just prior to the line that reads:”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2211252/posts
“You’re an idiot.”
“What brought that on?”
Glad you asked that... I was wondering the same thing.
I think people need to read part 8 E.
Then think about it for a sec.
Read part 8 E
Written in reference to “`(8) Providing a direct benefit to–”
Not the religion portion. I get what you’re saying but it’s also obviously an amendment to the amendment... clearly an afterthought.
The original intent was displayed on the first Whitehouse page then cleaned up. Anything that is tried by the Administration and is met with resistance will be backed off until it’s barely acceptable. That’s incrementalism at it’s worst... and it seems to be working.
“I’d like to see obama recruit some Muslims with this”
Muslims will be exempt for any service at all, wait and see.
“Muslims will be exempt for any service at all, wait and see.”
Religious exemption. It’s hard to follow the rules listed in the bill when you have to lay down a mat and pray towards Mecca several times a day.
bttt
This is nuts!
Unfortunately it’s not surprising. The government is not loyal to the constitution.
worth another bttt
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