Posted on 03/10/2009 3:39:09 AM PDT by AJMCQ
My father-in-law has enjoined the Philip Berg suit, questioning President Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility to be President, based on principle and patriotism. John Hemenway is a World War II veteran, a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy (class of 1951) and a Rhodes Scholar. He served in the Foreign Service in the former Soviet Union and in Germany as Chief of the Berlin section.
Mr. Obama's lawyers are now threatening my 84-year-old father-in-law, through Judge Robertson, with penalties of legal fees for pursuing the truth about Mr. Obama's birth. This threat of financial sanctions is meant to silence all of us who remain unsatisfied with equivocations by the Obama camp about his legal qualifications to become President, and to punish us for pursuing our Constitutionally-guaranteed right to redress.
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This is a critical constitutional issue, IMO. And, it seems to me that ANY US CITIZEN should have standing to bring the issue forward. I am appalled that the judiciary is finding nitpicky ways to kill off these suits, to keep hidden the details surrounding 0bama’s citizenship, his travel to Pakistan in the early 80’s, etc.
It would appear to be a very simple thing...just produce the BC, or the passport he used to travel to Pakistan. A lot less expensive than the hundreds of thousands he’s been said to have spent to keep these things out of public view.
It’s time to take back the country.
“Embarrassingly, Members of Congress have offered up “SNOPES” and other flawed websites by way of background information to constituents troubled by the refusal by President Barack Obama to disclose any vital records which would prove his eligibility to be President.”
Chuckie Schumer told me that the COURTS had proven his eligibility. This was in an email in response to mine asking him to take this issue seriously. My response hasn’t ever gone through because HIS inbox is always full. WE AREN’T STUPID - TELL ME WHICH COURT!
The ironic nature of this activity is whenever anyone of us goes for a job today, we have to give up our credit reports, P in a bottle, establish our citizenship, have a track record of employment and if it is a job involving national security, withstand a field background investigation and a check of the national agencies including the passport office. This clown has done none of these. I want to see the original certificate of live birth and I fail to comprehend why it has not been brought forth either through the court or just as a simple disclosure. Until then, I just look at this guy as the occupant of the White House, an empty suit in an empty chair.
Once again you display your ignorance. What is it that was actually decided in the earlier Berg decision of which you speak and procedurally where was it, and what remedy was actually involved? Was it a preliminary remedy or a final one?
Why don’t you enlighten us out of your vast knowledge of the legal system?
Correction. To date, no one has been allowed discovery. The standing dismissals have all been granted on motions prior to the discovery phase being reached.
Well, you can read it all for yourself, but the jist of it is that the earlier Berg case found that the plaintiff had no legal standing to initiate the suit and the case was dismissed.
Was it a preliminary remedy or a final one?
I think Berg appealed but I don't believe the case has been heard yet. However, in his ruling last week the judge did refer to the October decision from the Berg v. Obama case as reason for dismissal.
Why don’t you enlighten us out of your vast knowledge of the legal system?
How's that so far?
Perhaps it's because the judges at all levels have looked at it and determined that the cases have no merit?
What the heck kind of attitude is that?
Even in high school sporting events the winning team must forfiet if it is later discovered that they fielded an ineligible player.
They don't wait to fix it next time, why should we?
Not very good. Standing, as anyone familiar with the system knows, is separate from the merits of the case. Further, it is a doctrine that varies greatly from court to court and is continually being litigated and re-investigated all the way up to the Supreme Court.
Also, you seem to be confusing petitions and requests for preliminary relief at various levels as well as having little knowledge of what the actual standing of the several Berg litigations is at present. Why don’t you do a little research for yourself, and more importantly, make accurate representations.
It’s Pelosi’s fault. She sent the letter to the Secretary of State of each of each of the 50 states with the names of her party’s nominee.
LLS
why is it sealed?
Anyone that covers for hussein is the enemy of Freedom and Liberty.
LLS
If you don't have standing then how can the case have any merit?
Further, it is a doctrine that varies greatly from court to court and is continually being litigated and re-investigated all the way up to the Supreme Court.
It seems to be pretty consistently applied in these cases.
Also, you seem to be confusing petitions and requests for preliminary relief at various levels as well as having little knowledge of what the actual standing of the several Berg litigations is at present. Why don’t you do a little research for yourself, and more importantly, make accurate representations.
All I know is what I read in the judges decisions. And to date those haven't been complimentary towards Berg or his schemes.
This is the same as the left’s explanation for any and all unconstitutional laws -
“we voted on it, fix it in the next election”
So... if 10 men and 9 women voted on whether the women should be raped,
they’ll just have to live with that vote until the next election?
I’ve yet to hear anyone explain the two birth announcements that were in separate newspapers announcing his birth at the time.
It’s a bridge too far to suggest that 47 years ago some plan was hatched by his 17 year old mother.
The problem with the cases, they have provided no reasonable doubt regarding where he was born, making the other observations (living in other countries) moot.
If people want to bring cases, it’s their right and they should, but they should also recognize that if they loose they might be liable for fees, no free rides.
Frankly, I’m surprised that responsible people using he court system would complain when held responsible. Don’t we want ALL people held responsible? Imagine if this was a frivolous lawsuit against a company, no one would be complaining that the plaintiff had to pay fee’s if they lost, double standards are bad.
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