The Winds Of Civil War: Illinois-Driven Marxist Attempt To Conquer Union

Pat Dollard ^ | Feb 20, 2009 | Pat Dollard

[Islander7]

New Hampshire fired the first shot. Although 7 other states have similar pending resolutions and bills, Oklahoma is the first to actually pass one. Another 27 states are expected to make similar moves in the coming months. That’ll leave the country split 71-29.

Now, before you get too excited, bear in mind that all of this was likely Obama’s goal. Boiled down, all of these state measures are threats of secession. Recall, if you will, Obama’s obsession to be the 21st Century Abraham Lincoln, and his ominous calls to recreate and rebuild America. Who was Lincoln? Why, he was the man who “preserved” the Union by way of implementing military force against states that had seceded. Lincoln knew full well that he would not be preserving the Union, but that he would be conquering sovereign nations, and that he would then have to destroy their cultures and ideologies, remaking both in the image of the North’s. And that is precisely what happened in the aftermath of Lincoln’s war of aggression. He didn’t preserve the Union, he changed it forever and handed unprecedented powers to the Federal Government.

Okay, so now I’m going to run with a theory.

[ronnyquest]

Hear, hear! Get it started and we’ll sort it out.

[Sarajevo]

Where would 0bama get soldiers to enforce his fiats? I have to believe that the vast majority of the armed forces would never turn on their fellow Americans. If all 0bama can round up for his secret police are ACORN community organizers, that fight would last less than 5 minutes.

Kent State

Little Rock

<George Washington and his troops near Fort Cumberland, Maryland, before their march to suppress the Whiskey Rebellion in western Pennsylvania

The National Guard can be mobilized if the President is unable with the regular armed forces to execute the laws of the United States

IOW, they will do as they are told.

[Carry_Okie]

molitojo is right, it was Blackwater who went with the JBT’s.

Got proof?

[Errant]

Thirty-Three states would be needed to call a convention and Thirty-Eight states are needed to ratify an amendment repealing the 16th amendment.

No more than twelve holdouts allowed - kinda Biblical...

[gwilhelm56]

**The constitution allows the states to call a constitutional convention any time they like.**

The ONLY WAY I’d go for that, would be: The Convention, itself, may have NO CURRENT OR FORMER MEMBER of any LEGISLATIVE BODY, State or Federal, as they have an inherent Conflict of INTEREST.

[ronnyquest]

And then what? Do you think that Obama would simply concede defeat and remove himself from power if a new constitutional convention decided he should not be in office? Do you think the federal employees would simply go along if a new constitutional congress decided their departments were no longer needed?

[Errant]

I would agree that there would need to be going in rules with specific issues worked out in advance among each of the “Red” States Legislatures and Governors... ;-)

[AngryJawa]

The most likely scenario if things worsen is a military coup, a rule by martial law for a while, and a leader who wants to restore Constitutional law and will eventually step down or stand for election, not unlike George Washington. He will be the second Father of our Country. The bulk of the upper echelon officer corps are men of honor, not power grabbers – those are the politicians.

I've come to look at it the same way myself, but I don't view it as very likely. I see it only as the most expedient and maybe least painful way, unconstitutional as it is, to set us back on the path of being a constitutional republic, but it'd be risky as hell.

We've run so far afield in our political process that politics simply can't put it back right anymore. Someone has to "de-Baathify" the anti-constitutionalists out of the government. It certainly won't happen when the majority of voters think they can vote themselves a stipend from the treasury and power-mad politicians are only happy to oblige them.

[CowboyJay]

I have to believe that the vast majority of the armed forces would never turn on their fellow Americans

Soldiers follow orders. The only orders they're taught not to obey are unlawful ones. Are 'We the People' still making the laws?

[Be_Politically_Erect]

ping

[clamper1797]

Kill a few hundred prominent ‘Rats'

I believe only a few dozens head Rats AKA traitors. need to be "neutralized" starting with those who disseminate the socialist propaganda ... MSM heads and leftist academics and this will stop ...

In the meantime we as members of the opposition need to start serving on juries in order to nullify the governments attempts to imprison its political enemies. Look for trumped up drug and weapons charges ... a few guilty may get off but that would be a small price to pay

[JoeA]

And that is exactly what happened at the first Constitutional Convention. The convention was called to revise the Articles of Confederation. Turned out pretty well, I think, but that’s no guarantee of future success. Especially given the nature of current elected officials.

[PhilCollins]

Has an Illinois legislator proposed a resolution which asks the federal government to obey the 10th Amendment? If not, I’ll ask some legislators to propose it.

[Errant]

I think once control of funding has been regained by the States the Feds will have no choice but to relinquish administration of much back to the States. Except of course for what the constitution specifically grants the Fed authority over (i.e. Defense and etc.).

Technology is a two edged sword in that it has allowed the federal government to become almost an entity unto itself. When the constitution was first established communication was by carrier and transportation by carriage.

These days, a Senator can leave his Mother’s wake in his home state to go vote in DC and be back by private jet before he is even missed.

Breaking things up among the States should at least make it more difficult for unscrupulous legislators or presidents to usurp the power of the people. I believe the founders wrote much into the processes for just such hindrances.

[SwinneySwitch]

[Islander7]

Take a good look at the map. The areas with the most financial problems are the blue areas. Go figure!

[Islander7]

This is the sort of thread that FreeRepublic was uniquely designed for. Not the nutball threads that claim trilobites are clever forgeries to fool us about the Earth’s age....”

You mean they’re not?

;-)

[rigelkentaurus]

we should just clean up the middle blue parts and kick out New England/West Coast/Upper midwest and move on.

[KrisKrinkle]

“How does Allied States of America sound??”

It sucks. The collective term has been United States from the DOI through the Articles of Confederation into the Constitution and till now. Why let those who would destroy us make us change that?

[Centurion2000]

How does Allied States of America sound??

Free States of America has a much better ring to it. Or just Free America.

A rallying cry and a national title all in one.