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Astonishing DNA complexity demolishes neo-Darwinism
CMI ^ | Alex Williams

Posted on 01/13/2009 6:40:50 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

The traditional understanding of DNA has recently been transformed beyond recognition. DNA does not, as we thought, carry a linear, one-dimensional, one-way, sequential code—like the lines of letters and words on this page. And the 97% in humans that does not carry protein-coding genes is not, as many people thought, fossilized ‘junk’ left over from our evolutionary ancestors. DNA information is overlapping-multi-layered and multi-dimensional; it reads both backwards and forwards; and the ‘junk’ is far more functional than the protein code, so there is no fossilized history of evolution. No human engineer has ever even imagined, let alone designed an information storage device anything like it. Moreover, the vast majority of its content is metainformation—information about how to use information. Meta-information cannot arise by chance because it only makes sense in context of the information it relates to. Finally, 95% of its functional information shows no sign of having been naturally selected; on the contrary, it is rapidly degenerating! That means Darwin was wrong—natural selection of natural variation does not explain the variety of life on Earth. The best explanation is what the Bible tells us: we were created—as evidenced by the marvels of DNA—but then we fell and now endure the curse of ‘bondage to decay’ by mutations...

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To: GodGunsGuts
You need the Bible to graduate from ID to YEC.

If we can study, scientifically, the creation event, is it possible that we can scientifically study the resurrection?

61 posted on 01/13/2009 8:27:39 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: GodGunsGuts
It doesn’t. But Creation Science does predict that virtually all mutations will be deleterious,

But my quote from the article specifically mentions the Bible and the Fall of Man, which comes from the Bible:

The best explanation is what the Bible tells us: we were created—as evidenced by the marvels of DNA—but then we fell and now endure the curse of ‘bondage to decay’ by mutations
Like I said, the Bible doesn't mention DNA or mutations and you agree.
62 posted on 01/13/2009 8:45:22 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Very factual, and fitting, but its going to hurt a lot of feelings.


63 posted on 01/13/2009 8:46:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks allot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Moonman62

You are quite correct, the Bible doesn’t mention mutation or DNA. But creation science predicts the creation of life at the apex of functional complexity, and then steady degeneration after the fall. Thus, any aspect of life that science discovers, creation science predicts it will be degenerating, to include DNA. Science has merely found one of the mechanisms by which this is being brought about. As such, creation science predicts devolution, not evolution. And judging by the available evidence, it would seem that nature is intent on bringing this prediction to fruition.

All the best—GGG


64 posted on 01/13/2009 9:00:24 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: cacoethes_resipisco

PS Did you read the paper this post links to with respect to supposed “junk” DNA? It would seem that this neo-Darwinist prediction is on the verge of extinction.


65 posted on 01/13/2009 9:03:27 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

read later


66 posted on 01/13/2009 9:09:57 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


67 posted on 01/13/2009 9:14:16 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: old-ager

>moonbats

I don’t appreciate that.


Liberals project alot don’t they?


68 posted on 01/13/2009 9:21:47 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Moonman62
"I didn't know the Bible mentioned DNA or mutations."

Not in scientific language, but in literary form it definitely mentions that entropy is the way of nature.

"Nature will wax old, as a garment."

69 posted on 01/13/2009 9:24:26 PM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Please explain what your example has to do with inversely causal meta-information.

We see only those where there's a nice match of meta-information that complements the other code, just like we see only those with a correct key.

Incorrect meta-information would not survive.

70 posted on 01/13/2009 9:26:26 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
"It's rather embarassing that someone could present himself as an authority on something and then say absolutely goofy things like: "Meta-information cannot arise by chance because it only makes sense in context of the information it relates to."

How about sharing some of the examples that spring to your mind?

If actual examples are too tough, how about sharing some conceivable examples?

71 posted on 01/13/2009 9:29:06 PM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: Coyoteman; GodGunsGuts

We’re talking about science in THIS country Coyoteman, where Catholics are in the MINORITY, not that this is remotely relevant, as the very best argument you can make by dragging the Pope into the science class, (btw, hypocritically doing exactly what you always whine about others doing) is that evolution IS intelligent design!

But then, as everyone knows, logic simply isn’t your strong suit!


72 posted on 01/13/2009 9:35:27 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Gondring

Problem is there’s only one God and Satan will do all he can to trick you into believing he has a good key too.

He doesn’t.


73 posted on 01/13/2009 9:38:06 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Coyoteman; GodGunsGuts

What you are doing is promoting a very narrow fundamentalist view of religion and creation, one shared by only a small percentage of Christians. And you are saying that the majority Christian view, which holds that science must be accorded its appropriate respect, is heresy or blasphemy or some such.

The Pope and a large majority of Catholics would most likely say you are totally wrong. And last I looked, Catholics are the single largest religious denomination on earth. Are you saying that both scientists and Catholics are all wrong?

And from your response to my post you have shown that this thread properly should have been posted in the Religion Forum. You are not doing science.


You seriously don’t get tired of hearing yourself lie, day in and day out do you Coyoteman?

WHEN will you understand liberals will not be allowed to undermine FR like they undermine science and virtually anything and everything else they touch?

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http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/03/americans_overwhelmingly_suppo.html

Headline: “Americans Overwhelmingly Support Teaching Scientific Challenges to Darwinian Evolution, Zogby Poll Shows” From March 2006.

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=719

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74 posted on 01/13/2009 9:40:19 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m not saying my view should be the only one considered. Where did you get that from?


Liberals project alot. They think everyone thinks like they do...they squash dissent via lawsuits, and they think everyone behaves and acts the same way they do.

It all goes back to that idea of no moral compass.


75 posted on 01/13/2009 9:42:34 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: DevNet

LOL...


76 posted on 01/13/2009 10:44:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I see that Kenya's favorite son has a new weekly Saturday morning radio show.)
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To: cookcounty

Read the thread.


77 posted on 01/13/2009 11:27:30 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Rudder
"Nah, it’s just a waste of time.."

How about a short synopsis of the development of your worldview?

Given your medical background, you needn't reiterate your considerable education, but what prompted you to study medicine in the first place?

Did your mother beat you often?

Did a minister attempt to view your privates?

What made you into a godless atheist?

78 posted on 01/14/2009 6:04:00 AM PST by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
“the ‘junk’ is far more functional than the protein code”

Care to give an example where DNA’s function is not associated with protein production?

What “function” have short terminal repeats, ERV’s, and pseudogenes been found to have; besides the few that are associated with transciption of DNA into RNA and then translation into protein?

79 posted on 01/14/2009 7:08:46 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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To: GCC Catholic

Speaking of St. Thomas Aquinas...

“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Christian, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
Saint Thomas Aquinas


80 posted on 01/14/2009 7:13:30 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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