Posted on 01/12/2009 10:48:05 AM PST by mojito
Life TV’s Father Zakaria Botros recently ran a show dedicated to discussing the question of morality and how it is—or should be—one of the hallmarks of “prophethood.” At the start, he posed the focal question of the show: “Was Muhammad the prophet a moral man—the most upright man, worthy of being emulated by the world?”
He opened the show by relying on an Ibn Taymiyya quote, which evaluated the signs of prophethood. Taymiyya asserted that there are many false-prophets, such as Musailima “the Liar,” a contemporary of Muhammad. Taymiyya concluded that many of these so-called prophets are, in fact, “possessed,” and that the only way to determine the authenticity of any prophet is by examining his biography (sira) and deeds, and see if he be found worthy of the title.
Being that this is the first of several episodes devoted to examining the concepts of morality and prophethood (with the notion that the former reinforces the latter), the theme for this particular episode was “purity” (tahara): "Was Muhammad a 'pure' man?"—in this context, a question concerning his sexual mores (or lack thereof).
After the preliminaries, Botros looked at the camera and gave a stern warning: “This episode is for adults only! I am going to discuss many things that make me blush for shame, so please: have the women and children leave the room.”
He then asked Muslims watching to keep in mind the question “Is this the prophet I follow?” as he delineated some of Muhammad’s sexual habits.
First, from the Koran, Botros read verses unequivocally stating that Muhammad is the paragon of all virtue and morality, such as “And most surely you [Muhammad] conform (yourself) to sublime morality [68: 4].” He further quoted the ulema, such as Ibn Kathir, all insisting that Muhammad was the “Noblest of all humanity, and the greatest of prophets.”
Botros and his ex-Muslim cohost—the priest had insisted that it be a man for this particular show, lest he be too ashamed to delineate Muhammad’s sexual habits—discussed Koran 4:3, which “limits” a Muslim's wives to four, plus “what your right hands possess,” that is, slave-girls.
That was apparently not good enough for Muhammad, asserted Botros; an entire verse had to be “revealed” justifying more women for him (Koran 33:50). In fact, Father Botros has carefully compiled a list of all the women—66 are known—to have had sexual relations with Muhammad.
Botros said that was only normal: according to Sirat Al-Halabi, Muhammad can have a woman no matter what, even against her will; and if Muhammad desired a married woman, her husband would have had to divorce her. According to Ibn Sa’ad, who wrote another authoritative biographical account of Muhammad, “The prophet did not die till all women were permitted him” (see Kitab Al Tabaqat Al Kubra, v.8, 194).
The co-host, rather abruptly, interjected – “What of all those rumors that Muhammad exhibited homosexual tendencies?”
Botros dropped his face in his hands and mumbled, “So you still insist we discuss that?” The co-host was adamant, saying it was for Muslims’ own good to know everything.
Thus Botros, after profusely apologizing to his Muslim viewers, saying how embarrassing this was for him, declared: “Look! We’re merely readers here, bringing up what we have read in Islam’s own books! If Muslims don't like it, they should go and burn these books.”
The first anecdote discussed by the priest revolved around a hadith that, while some ulema say is “weak,” is, nonetheless according to Botros, present in 44 Islamic books—including some highly respected collections, such as Sunan Bayhaqi and Al Halabi.
According to this hadith, a man named Zahir, who used to declare that “the prophet loves me,” said that one day Muhammad crept unawares behind him and put him in a bear-hug. Zahir, alarmed, yelled, “Get off me!” After turning his head and discovering that it was Muhammad, he stopped struggling and proceeded to “push his back into the prophet’s chest—prayers and blessings upon him."
Another curious hadith contained in Sunan Bayhaqi and which traces to Sunan Abu Dawud (one of the six canonical hadith collections), has Muhammad lifting up his shirt for a man who proceeded to kiss his entire torso, “from his bellybutton to his armpits.”
Botros looked casually at the camera and said, “Imagine if the sheikh of Al Azhar [nearest Muslim equivalent to the pope] went around lifting his shirt for men to kiss his torso” (he proceeded to make smacking kissing noises, for effect).
Said the co-host: “Surely there’s more?”
Botros: “Indeed there is. No less than 20 Islamic sources—such as the hadiths of Ahmad bin Hanbal—relay that Muhammad used to suck on the tongues of boys and girls"...
[Stay tuned for part II of "The perverse sexual habits of the Prophet"]
I always wondered but I see no evidence of fecal consumption during rimming and felching technologies as promoted by the contemporary gay community. .
I’m not going to touch this one.
I wouldn’t wanna be hanging out with Fr.Botros anymore,if I were associated with him.
By their fruits shall you know them.
The fruit of Islam has always been despotism, failure and depravity. The fruit of Christianity - despite the many failings of its followers, which have often been a stumbling block - has been freedom, enterprise and ethics.
That tells you all you need to know.
Did Mohammed have a friend, mentor, pervert pal and “father” figure like Franklin Marshall Davis?
pedophiles are celebrated in islam
Father Botros is — an ex-Muslim? Catholic? Orthodox? Does anyone know about this COURAGEOUS man?
Piss be upon him.....he’d probably like it............
Here is an article about him:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTUwY2QyNjA0NjcwMjExMzI2ZmJiZTEzN2U1YjYyZjE
Probably also in Hawaii too back in the 1970s.
Ragging on the raghead Mohamed Piss be upon him Ping!.........
This is the fundamental problem with trying to “reform” Islam. The problems go right back to the Prophet himself. Murder, rape, enslavement, beheadings, conquest of the innocent, lying under oath, stoning of women, and all the rest of it. The early writings, including the Koran, not only describe these things, they boast about them and set them up as models for imitation.
There are, to all appearances, more than a few decent Muslims in the world, but that seems to be in spite of their religion, not because of it.
There have been plenty of evil Christians in the world, who committed evil deeds in the supposed name of Christianity, but Jesus was not their model. Jesus did not carry a sword, cut off his enemies’ heads, rape women, enslave captives, lie for convenience. Mohammed did.
A very brave priest. May be win many souls to Christ. May the day come when Egypt will be once again counted as a Christian Nation.
I know that he had better watch his back. Unfortunately, Islam is not a group that can handle the light of truth without having a homicidal cow. Truly, the world desperately needs men like this, but their life insurance premiums must be in the stratosphere!
What the...? Huh? Hello...? ulp...vomit, you didn’t... Why? why?why? Didn’t want to know that didn’t need to know that but dummy that I am I googled it shame on me... I could have gone the rest of my days without ever ever ever knowing what felching is. Technologies? what does that mean???? As in “felching technologies”? never mind don’t want to know. What do you mean you “see no evidence of fecal consumption”? How close are you looking? errrrrg, vomit..what the?
Now you know how the Muslims feel when they get down to the historical nitty-gritty of their Prophet. The world has never been an “Ozzy & Harriet” environment. It behooves us not be surprised when reality rears its UGLY head.
Just a part of the lifestyle not revealed on the WillandGrace show. What do you expect from the #1 vector of human infectious disease? Queers are a sick lot both physically and mentally.
Fatwa inbound in 5...4...3...2...
Now doesn’t all this make for a really keen religion?
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