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Supreme Court rejects Obama case
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/orders/courtorders/120808zor.pdf ^

Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment

too bad


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 911truth; bho; birthcertificate; blackhelicopters; certifigate; cfr; choomgang; colb; conspiracy; conspiracytheories; conspiracytheorists; conspiracytheory; deathofthewest; donofrio; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; pok; ronpaul; ruling; scotus; tinfoil; tinfoilhats; ussc
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To: autumnraine
When did a Hawaiian court rule on anything regarding this issue?

Right after the Germans invaded Pearl Harbor.

401 posted on 12/08/2008 9:46:50 AM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Please read the 2nd paragraph and note Obama’s father was not a US Citizen.
If Obama was not born in Hawaii or the US (and he has yet to show legitimate proof he was), he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

By this act right here:

http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html

4. December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986
If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.

If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship. If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules apply if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time. If legitimation occurred after November 14, 1986, your father must have established paternity prior to your 18th birthday, either by acknowledgment or by court order, and must have stated in writing that he would support you financially until your 18th birthday.


402 posted on 12/08/2008 9:46:58 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: andy58-in-nh

Oh yeah, and Obama’s mother was only 18 at his birth. Therefore not old enough to transfer citizenship unless born here.


403 posted on 12/08/2008 9:48:23 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: MHGinTN

Sorry, dude. I was in THIS hidey hole since long before you ever knew about FR and I’ll be here long after you’re gone.


404 posted on 12/08/2008 9:49:57 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS
Nope, we disagree...

The MSM didn't give them ( the sheeple public..) the info....and neither did our "Representatives" give the info.

There's a reason we call the general public the "Sheeple"...they are easily lead..if given true OR false info. IF...they had been told the truth about Clinton..the majority would have demanded he be removed. And algore would have taken over. Maybe you think that would have been dangerous....Ha!!

I dunno...but I laughed at your dangerous comment anyway...So do we just ignore any wrong acts by any that are elected?? Because darn we just don't want to "overturn" an election and admit we the voters were wrong or more likely duped. Give me a break, man! You are sounding like a MSM common-tator

FWIW-

405 posted on 12/08/2008 9:50:31 AM PST by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: seekthetruth

The Honorable Court chose not to state why.

Honorable court? We shall see how honorable it truly is.


406 posted on 12/08/2008 9:50:46 AM PST by Godsgirl
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t have an original copy of my birth certificate. It was lost many years ago. However, I can get a copy-certified copy anytime I want. It is just as good as the original. This is total nonsense. You don’t want Obama to be President (who does) and you are essentially refusing to face reality.


407 posted on 12/08/2008 9:51:13 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: seekthetruth

it will be more of the same. they will punt due to the political question issue, redress is with congress and voting


408 posted on 12/08/2008 9:52:29 AM PST by volslover
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To: snowsislander

Sorry if this has already been answered, but does anyone know if the press conference at 130 ET w/ Berg et al is going to be streamed live on C-Span, or anything else?


409 posted on 12/08/2008 9:52:30 AM PST by davek70
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To: autumnraine

This is so stupid, it takes my breath away. Obama’s mother was only 18. This is called legalism and will never amount to anything with good reason.


410 posted on 12/08/2008 9:52:56 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: TheCipher
No Hawaiian court has ever ruled on this. Where are you getting that info?

Here:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081121/NEWS20/811210355/1001/localnewsfront

Writ of mandamus denied because the plaintiff failed to demonstrate standing, that irreparable harm would be done without relief, and that the public interest overwhelmed the right to privacy. In addition, the state Health Department director testified that she had examined the original document and found it legitimate.

So, to make my point again, the court did not find that the document was legitimate, but only that it was entitled to that presumption.

411 posted on 12/08/2008 9:52:56 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: Candor7
Come on. Surely you know better. If the public "always stood for truth," then the public would have demanded, ten years ago, that the U.S. Senators actually LOOK at the Starr materials that alleged that Bill Clinton was a rapist. Quite the contrary, the more it was pushed, the more angry at Republicans the public became.

There is one thing that is certain: the American voters will not be told they are stupid. I don't care what evidence you have, I don't care what the constitution says, the voters will work the system so that their will is followed. There is no circumstance under the sun in which ANY of this will result in Obama being prevented from taking office.

412 posted on 12/08/2008 9:53:04 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Mojave
Right after the Germans invaded Pearl Harbor.

Which time?

413 posted on 12/08/2008 9:53:14 AM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: bronxboy
A third party is fast forming--American Independent. The Republican party is over. They don't want conservatives. (Although the Ohio voters you describe must have really gone over the edge, to vote for Zero.

We can't "change" the R party, only start over with people of our own beliefs and ideals. Take a look at AIP's site.

414 posted on 12/08/2008 9:53:45 AM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: MortMan; Canedawg

Canedawg brought a similar point as you regarding the degree of proof in a civil suit such as Obama birth certificate. From legal point of view you are both right. However at the same time Obama is not required or forced by any law to produce his original birth certificate and there is no political pressure on him to do so. The majority of people are not buying this birth certificate issue and this ends it from political point of view. Now that the supreme court has spoken this issue is over.


415 posted on 12/08/2008 9:54:17 AM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: autumnraine
The court did not find that the document was legitimate, but only that it was entitled to that presumption.

Here:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081121/NEWS20/811210355/1001/localnewsfront

Writ of mandamus denied because the plaintiff failed to demonstrate standing, that irreparable harm would be done without relief, and that the public interest overwhelmed the right to privacy. In addition, the state Health Department director testified that she had examined the original document and found it legitimate.

416 posted on 12/08/2008 9:54:22 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: bronxboy
However, I can get a copy-certified copy anytime I want.

Where's a certified copy of Obama's birth certificate?

417 posted on 12/08/2008 9:54:59 AM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: atlbelle44

I have a small ping list, and have added you to it.

God bless you.


418 posted on 12/08/2008 9:55:29 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Hey Horowitz! Just because we don't swing left doesn't mean we're "unhinged".)
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To: bronxboy

You can’t influence SCOTUS, they pride themselves on being above the political fray.

Let’s hope you’re right. I’m beginning to wonder.


419 posted on 12/08/2008 9:56:21 AM PST by Godsgirl
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To: EagleUSA
Only half. Not really much different than 2000 or 2004 in that regard.

Except that the results of that increasingly "roughly half" are progressively getting worse!!!

420 posted on 12/08/2008 9:56:25 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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