[autumnraine]

Oh yeah, and Obama’s mother was only 18 at his birth. Therefore not old enough to transfer citizenship unless born here.

[bronxboy]

This is so stupid, it takes my breath away. Obama’s mother was only 18. This is called legalism and will never amount to anything with good reason.

[andy58-in-nh]

I see that, but again: there is no proof that Obama was not born in Hawaii, and that is what needs to be presented to overcome the presumption of legitimacy according the certified copy of his birth certificate.

Again, I'm not saying it's real or fake, only that what I've seen is speculation rather than anything approaching proof. My larger concern is that this issue is in reality only a technicality, and one that threatens to distract us in the same manner that the whole "Bush Stole The Election/Selected-Not-Elected" meme consumed the Democrats for more than four years.