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To: autumnraine
The court did not find that the document was legitimate, but only that it was entitled to that presumption.

Here:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081121/NEWS20/811210355/1001/localnewsfront

Writ of mandamus denied because the plaintiff failed to demonstrate standing, that irreparable harm would be done without relief, and that the public interest overwhelmed the right to privacy. In addition, the state Health Department director testified that she had examined the original document and found it legitimate.

416 posted on 12/08/2008 9:54:22 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

All you’re really doing is proving that your claim is specious.


423 posted on 12/08/2008 9:56:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Hey Horowitz! Just because we don't swing left doesn't mean we're "unhinged".)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Before the election, Fukino issued a statement saying that she and the registrar of vital statistics had personally examined the birth certificate and found it to be valid.

Sorry, but like many many other reporters, they make an assumption that just because there IS A birth certificate, that it says what Obama posted on his website. (Many copied the AP Press release stating that. Seems that is standard nowadays, to just repeat even incorrect information) No, in Hawaii, you can request a birth certificate to be issued if you had your child outside the state. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm) Here is exactly what Fukimo said: (http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf) That October 31, 2008 statement says that Dr. Fukino "ha[s] personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." That statement does not, however, verify that Obama was born in Hawaii, and as explained above, under Hawaiian policies and procedures it is quite possible that Hawaii may have a birth record of a person not born in Hawaii. Unlikely, but possible.

460 posted on 12/08/2008 10:12:15 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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