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Chasm dividing Americans over birth certificate widens
WND ^ | November 28, 2008

Posted on 11/28/2008 9:00:33 PM PST by ckilmer

The chasm between those who want President-elect Barack Obama to produce his birth certificate to verify his eligibility to hold the nation's highest office and those who simply support the Democrat is widening.

"The Constitution means what we today decide it means," opined one participant on a new WND forum that offers readers an opportunity to express their opinion on the birth certificate dispute.

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To: omniscient
"This will only get traction if it is made an issue in the MSM. And the only circumstance in which they will acknowledge this is if Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, etc. begin to harp on this on a daily basis.

These guys have to stop worrying about Fairness Doctrine and pick up the ball. Or are they just afraid of being made to look like fools in case B.Hussein O. actually comes up with proper documentation?

As it stands, they are starting to lose credibility by ignoring this elephant. And worse yet, they are enabling Hussein's fraud, since MSM thinks if talk radio is ignoring this, they can too. "

Here here.

Actually, if you look around, you'll see that this issue is starting to be picked up by some mainstream press organizations. The weight and pressure of this story is forcing cracks in the MSM's containment field, and it just won't hold much longer.

If four Justices decide on December 5th to continue Donofrio's suit, this will blow up in the press. There just won't be any way to contain it any longer. Rest assured that the suits in the MSM have already plotted out their damage control campaign, should their blackout fail.

101 posted on 11/28/2008 11:15:09 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Why so rude to me? It's obvious you misunderstood my post.

Should I sign "present" in each thread I read?

102 posted on 11/28/2008 11:15:15 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Windflier

Windflier, you should know me better than that on these BC threads. You know I feel as you do. I will not just lay down and take it. But you have to admit that basically until the shmeckles on TV say anything, it doesn’t exist, as far as most Americans are concerned.

Me? A vampire? Is there flying involved? Cooooool. Not into blood though — it’s not kosher.


103 posted on 11/28/2008 11:15:34 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: blackbart.223; Windflier

AFAIC, saying things completely suck isn’t necessarily a bad thing (not that bart is saying things completely suck)

On the bright side, no better time to reorders priorities than now. God’s moved to the top of my list.


104 posted on 11/28/2008 11:19:27 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: Windflier

If four Justices decide on December 5th to continue Donofrio’s suit, this will blow up in the press. There just won’t be any way to contain it any longer. Rest assured that the suits in the MSM have already plotted out their damage control campaign, should their blackout fail.


They have a legal team working on allowing ‘Arnold’ in California to run, despite his not being ‘natural born’. This legal team just happens to be Obama’s old law firm. I think they will try an end run if the truth comes out, by legislating it away.


105 posted on 11/28/2008 11:20:13 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin
I think they will be far more dangerous than you imagine. If history is anything to judge by, they always are. They come in packs and the RINO will not stand by you. Well this says it better than I can...

You vampires really piss me off with your attempts to sucker good patriots into pre-emptive surrender.

I think the story of the American Revolution says what American patriots will do a whole lot better than any scare mongering crap posted to this website or on the internet.

If you're that scared, you need to leave here, because when the moment comes, I know that you won't have my back. And don't think for a moment that you can slink into our brigades later. You will be remembered for who you are, vampire.

106 posted on 11/28/2008 11:25:51 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gene Eric
"AFAIC, saying things completely suck isn’t necessarily a bad thing (not that bart is saying things completely suck).

They don't completey suck. It't just things could be better. But what the hell I'm still free and intend to stay that way.

Bart.

107 posted on 11/28/2008 11:30:59 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Windflier

Scaremongering? I take it then that you are scared by reality. You go on about how your morale is going to collapse if things are not as rosy as you imagined. Bart.223 is right, if it ever came to it, you would collapse like a house of cards.

American patriot? Your brigades? We aren’t talking about Halo 3, or Red Dawn. Jesus, you have no idea!


108 posted on 11/28/2008 11:34:56 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Windflier
"If you're that scared, you need to leave here, because when the moment comes, I know that you won't have my back. And don't think for a moment that you can slink into our brigades later. You will be remembered for who you are, vampire."

This thread got started because people like you are pinning your hopes on the birth certificate issue. If it happens I will be the first to swallow my pride and admit you are right. What will you do if I right?

109 posted on 11/28/2008 11:38:03 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: CaraM

We can never give up. We will never surrender.


110 posted on 11/28/2008 11:40:01 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: Sharrukin
Personally, I think it will come to violence as the left feels they have the advantage and when they see power slipping from their grasp they will react as they have for the last 8 years. The difference is that this time they will have the power of the state behind them.

Waco, Texas, Elian Gonzales, and more will be repeated and much worse.

Yeah, and the British tax collectors had "the power of the state" behind them too. You can't honestly believe that red blooded Americans are going to simply surrender their arms and their freedom without a fight, do you?

The mettle of the law-abiding, taxpaying, flag waving patriot hasn't been tested on American soil in something like 150 years, but you can bet your axx it's still there.

It really chaps my butt to hear people tiptoeing around the idea that Obama and his minions might somehow implement an overwhelming and wholesale destruction of freedom in this country. If people honestly believe that to be a real probability, then they need to start loudly discussing what we're going to do about it.

Enough of the pansycake crap. Stop trying to spook everyone, and tell us what you're going to do to prevent it.

111 posted on 11/28/2008 11:42:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: fightinJAG
This doesn’t need “traction.” It is purely a constitutional/legal issue at this point.

By "traction," I mean that this issue needs to at least become public knowledge. I would guess that less than 5% of the American public is even aware that there are questions about Hussein's legitimacy. If every voter was made aware of the fact that their president-elect's country of birth and citizenship have not been conclusively established, I think there would be a whole lot more concern, despite the media's attempt to keep a lid on this. I have very little faith in SCOTUS to resolve this. They will conclude that this is too "political" and shut this down as soon as the formalities are done with.

I really like that idea of a national birth certificate withholding campaign as suggested in this thread. That would be a great one for Rush to instigate, a la "Operation Chaos."

112 posted on 11/28/2008 11:43:22 PM PST by omniscient
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To: TYVets

I prefer “Obama the Usurper”.


113 posted on 11/28/2008 11:45:03 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
The dumb bastards on the left don't give a rats butt about the Constitution. They don't realize it is what gives them the freedom to be stupid.

Great post. You've said exactly what I wanted to but with the sarcasm and irreverence they deserve.

114 posted on 11/28/2008 11:46:16 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: ckilmer

“The Constitution means what we today decide it means,”

The Nazi’s would sometimes say “we decide who is a Jew” when they found one useful. From someones biography can’t remember who.


115 posted on 11/28/2008 11:47:37 PM PST by fishhound (Obama and company are trying to FOCAround with the Church.)
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To: Windflier
"Enough of the pansycake crap. Stop trying to spook everyone, and tell us what you're going to do to prevent it."

Have you ever faced death? This is an important question since you seem to question others on the subject.

116 posted on 11/28/2008 11:50:03 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Windflier
Bart. Go read some history on the American Revolution for a while. It'll rekindle your sense of fighting spirit and hope for our future.

Re-reading Unintended Consequences at the moment. Good uplifting read.

117 posted on 11/28/2008 11:50:33 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: Windflier

Look. Have you seen those video’s posted of attack helicoters hosing down Iraqi insurgents with 30mm M230’s. Those guys getting hosed are YOU! Thermal imaging systems, 70mm Hydra rockets with flechette warhead, the whole nine yards. Bradleys, Abrams, and Strykers will be deployed against anyone who threatens them. The absolute firepower is enormous. It ain’t gonna be like the revolutionary war. Think the long war in Afghanistan against the Russians.


118 posted on 11/28/2008 11:51:31 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: SatinDoll
Darth Vader ginsberg... first daughter of satan... does not surprise me.

LLS

119 posted on 11/28/2008 11:51:40 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims! I am an UMA-unity my a$$)
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To: Windflier

For those in Rio Linda... watch Gibson in the Patriot.

LLS


120 posted on 11/28/2008 11:53:09 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims! I am an UMA-unity my a$$)
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