Posted on 10/23/2008 2:54:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Contact: Steve Marquis Telephone Number: 425-698-7084 Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/peoplesvoice.html
Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections; Lawsuits are being filed in Eight States Seeking to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S. or Be Removed as Presidential Candidate on State Ballots.
Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertifying of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama.
Philip Berg’s months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau yesterday as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the court that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen and therefore not qualified to run for office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Obama’s non-qualification by their failure to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer a petition by Berg. Berg is a lifelong Democrat in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party who has sought to ratchet up the legal pressure as Obama and the DNC has continually delayed providing certifying documentation of Obama’s birth, which he claims to have been in Hawaii.
A lawsuit in Honolulu in the First District Court is seeking a court-order to open Obama’s secret birth records. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information request for the records at two hospitals in Hawaii. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state Superior Courts to force the states’ Secretary of State, as the chief state elections officer, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records from Mr. Obama that would verify his birth in Hawaii.
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “"No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States."
There are numerous allegations to Obama’s claim of natural birth in the U.S. on the web and in the media, all raising suspicion and doubt as to Obama’s actual place of birth and qualification to run for president. Some of the assertions to which Obama “admitted” on Berg’s suit are: he was born in Mombassa, Kenya in 1961 while his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was married to Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan; when his mother, divorced from Obama Sr, moved to Indonesia and married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, Obama was adopted by Soetoro and became an Indonesian citizen; while in Indonesia, Obama had his name changed to Barry Soetoro; Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 under an Indonesian passport when Pakistan was a no travel zone for Americans; Obama had “admitted” to receiving illegal contributions in his campaign for president. Additionally, there is an allegation that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claims that Obama was born in Kenya; Muammar Gadhafi, leader of Libya, has publicly claimed that Obama was born in Kenya and studied in Muslim schools in Indonesia. Obama has also “admitted” to hold citizenship in another country (the U.S. Constitution forbids dual citizenship).
Non-partisan and independent reviews and examinations of Obama’s birth certificate as shown on his official website has evidence of tampering and in any case does not list any of the points of information commonly found which would make it traceable and verifiable such as hospital, doctor, size weight, foot prints etc.
Interestingly, all these state lawsuits would be dropped if Mr. Obama would simply provide the requested documents supporting his claim of being born in Hawaii.
Lawsuits in additional states are being added each day. For more information about each lawsuit, contact:
(HI) Andy Martin at email: AndyMart20@aol.com
(WA) Steve Marquis email: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org ; website: www.peoplespassion.org
(CA) David Archbold email darchbo1@gmail.com
(GA) Tom Terry email: kingdommatters@gmail.com
(PA) Philip Berg email: philjberg@obamacrimes.com ; website: www.obamacrimes.com
(NY) Dan Smith email: Dansmith1954@aol.com
(CT) Cort Wrotnowski email: Metaqubit@aol.com
I think this little snippet of his Columbia speech is pretty funny given his reluctance for his own transparancy.
“And to say to young people, to say to young people, even as we’re transforming Washington, come on, we want you. We want you to get involved at every level. And by the way, you don’t even have to join government. Part of what we’re going to do is create transparency and accountability in how government works so that you can be an active citizen holding your public servants and elected officials accountable. That’s one other aspect of citizenship is paying attention to what’s taking place.”
My first fuess would be none- but we are talking about Nobama here.
Judge for yourself. It could be coincidence.
Where are the chess pieces and what is two/three moves down?
“A Crisis Might Be Coming. What is in the Works? Everyone Keep Your Eyes and Ears Open, We Need to Know Everything Right Now! Top military leaders just met too, I wonder if it is connected”
http://www.loosechange911.com/blog/
Testing of Martial Law in Arkansas:
Pelosi declared Martial Law to get the bailout bill voted on:
http://www.dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/youtube%20pelosi%20declared%20martial%20law/1/417/TopNavigation/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true
But- Ballota are already printed, etc.
She also would have problems, IMO.
You are right, the Constitution does not forbid dual citizenship.
http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/dual_citizenship.html
I don’t know why that is even in the article- I thought the issue is that Obama may have been born in Kenya.
I will sign up here and now.
see my post at #5 & #85
see my post at #85
You just said that citizenship CAN be renounced at any age, and then provided the citation that a minor could NOT renounce citizenship.
One of us is confused.
I don’t *think* it’s me...
I am glad that "nonpartisan, independent reviews" was stated, because there is still only one set of reviews proving that tampering.
I am in high "troll alert" mode but I'm glad I didn't go all nuclear on you before reading this...
Cheers!
Paraphrased: A parent can’t renounce for their child. The child - on their own - can renounce their citizenship, only after they display they fully understand their decision.
Because he's not a US "born" anything. There are no US birth records for Obama.
The second criteria: " in the United States " simply refers to physical location.
The issue of citizenship is misunderstood by many. Citizenship in another country is NOT recognized by US Law. There is no category of dual citizenship. This also means that a US court cannot really adjudge whether one is a citizen of another country, if someone IS a US citizen. It is known in International law as the principle of "forum non conveniens". A US court cannot apply the law of another nation to decide an issue pertaining to a question of citizenship in another nation.
The effect is that US citizens CAN hold other citizenships, they are not recognized in the US. However some other nations DO recognize the possibility of multiple citizenships of a national, and provide means through declaration and otherwise to do so.
This may seem confusing, but its really quite simple.
It allows a US citizen to say when asked: " Are you a Kenyan Citizen?" To reply" NO." because there is no legal basis for asking the question.Sort of a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on citizen ship outside the US citizenship one holds by birth or naturalization.
US citizenship, once acquired , due to case law, can only be renounced by declaration in writing, IF one is over the age of 18. It used to be by statute, that one could lose US citizenship by voting in a foreign election, for example. That is no longer the case according to case law.
I hope that clarifies the issue somewhat.
But to further muddy the waters, US citizens who can be shown to have dual citizenships, cannot pass a security clearance unless the foreign citizenship is renounced in writing. This is especially true of those with dual allegiances or dual citizenships who are military enlisted personnel who are being promoted to officer rank. So if Obama has a foreign citizenship, he would not be able to pass a security clearance as Commander in Chief, if the clearance guidelines are followed.
I think maybe it is me.
Sort of.
I don’t think a six year old (before the Age of Reason) could convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation.
Still, you’ve made your point that a minor could, in principle, actively renounce citizenship.
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