Posted on 10/23/2008 2:54:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Contact: Steve Marquis Telephone Number: 425-698-7084 Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/peoplesvoice.html
Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections; Lawsuits are being filed in Eight States Seeking to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S. or Be Removed as Presidential Candidate on State Ballots.
Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertifying of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama.
Philip Berg’s months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau yesterday as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the court that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen and therefore not qualified to run for office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Obama’s non-qualification by their failure to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer a petition by Berg. Berg is a lifelong Democrat in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party who has sought to ratchet up the legal pressure as Obama and the DNC has continually delayed providing certifying documentation of Obama’s birth, which he claims to have been in Hawaii.
A lawsuit in Honolulu in the First District Court is seeking a court-order to open Obama’s secret birth records. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information request for the records at two hospitals in Hawaii. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state Superior Courts to force the states’ Secretary of State, as the chief state elections officer, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records from Mr. Obama that would verify his birth in Hawaii.
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: “"No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States."
There are numerous allegations to Obama’s claim of natural birth in the U.S. on the web and in the media, all raising suspicion and doubt as to Obama’s actual place of birth and qualification to run for president. Some of the assertions to which Obama “admitted” on Berg’s suit are: he was born in Mombassa, Kenya in 1961 while his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was married to Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan; when his mother, divorced from Obama Sr, moved to Indonesia and married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, Obama was adopted by Soetoro and became an Indonesian citizen; while in Indonesia, Obama had his name changed to Barry Soetoro; Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 under an Indonesian passport when Pakistan was a no travel zone for Americans; Obama had “admitted” to receiving illegal contributions in his campaign for president. Additionally, there is an allegation that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claims that Obama was born in Kenya; Muammar Gadhafi, leader of Libya, has publicly claimed that Obama was born in Kenya and studied in Muslim schools in Indonesia. Obama has also “admitted” to hold citizenship in another country (the U.S. Constitution forbids dual citizenship).
Non-partisan and independent reviews and examinations of Obama’s birth certificate as shown on his official website has evidence of tampering and in any case does not list any of the points of information commonly found which would make it traceable and verifiable such as hospital, doctor, size weight, foot prints etc.
Interestingly, all these state lawsuits would be dropped if Mr. Obama would simply provide the requested documents supporting his claim of being born in Hawaii.
Lawsuits in additional states are being added each day. For more information about each lawsuit, contact:
(HI) Andy Martin at email: AndyMart20@aol.com
(WA) Steve Marquis email: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org ; website: www.peoplespassion.org
(CA) David Archbold email darchbo1@gmail.com
(GA) Tom Terry email: kingdommatters@gmail.com
(PA) Philip Berg email: philjberg@obamacrimes.com ; website: www.obamacrimes.com
(NY) Dan Smith email: Dansmith1954@aol.com
(CT) Cort Wrotnowski email: Metaqubit@aol.com
But then Biden gets the seat.
Appears I’m wrong. US citizens can hold dual.
You said, “US law doesn’t allow anyone under 18 to renounce their citizenship”.
Incorrect.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html
See Paragraph F & G
No, it doesn’t disallow dual citizenship.
But it does disqualify one who has dual citizenship from being president.
Any idea who’s paying for this trip?
Oct 23, 2008 12:27 pm US/Pacific
B To Land In Sacramento...To Refuel Jet
SACRAMENTO (CBS13/CNN) ― Presidential hopeful B will make a brief stop in Sacramento this afternoon, but won't make any appearances.
B is heading to Hawaii to visit his ailing grandmother. His plane is expected to land in Sacramento around 3:40 this afternoon to refuel before heading over the Pacific.
CBS13 has learned B will be staying on the plane, as well as everyone on board, during the stop which is expected to take "no more than an hour".
B is planning to spend tonight and much of tomorrow with his grandmother in Hawaii, before resuming his campaign in Nevada on Saturday.
B tells CBS that he wasn't with his mother when she died of ovarian cancer and doesn't want to make the same mistake with his grandmother. As he put it, "my grandmother's the last one left."
(CBS13/CNN)
IMO, nobody knows because NOBODY CHECKS!
The US is one of a few countries that does not allow dual citizenships.”
That’s not so. I am dual.
EXACTLY. i think we have just discovered a major flaw in the current election system.
P.S.
But then, I’m not running for president.
IIRC The dual citizenship issues is settle by the 1930 agreement at the Hague. If one country does not allow dual citizenship the other country must comply. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. Therefore, when he became a citizen there he lost his citizenship here.
Thanks, Davey Crockett.
Ping to some good news for a change; see #8, too.
Taking your page as correct policy, you still have Obama not instantly losing his US citizenship because of his mother’s marriage or even his adoption. Instead, in order for him to lose his US citizenship, you have to accept that, at an age of less than 10 (when he moved back to the US), that he was able to “convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.” And there would be records or such a renunciation in the State Department files.
“Citizenship is not the issue here.”
JEEZ! I know that, and you would know that I know that, if you read what I’ve posted on this thread.
So, HE renounced his American citizenship to TWO foreign powers, AFTER he turned 18, so the limits in paragraphs F & G don't apply.
That he didn't honor the United States enough to make a formal renunciation to a US consular or diplomatic officer provides him with only the most withered of fig leafs for his intent.
I still think he might complain about the VRWC on his tv extravaganza, and then whip out his birth certificate. I don;t trust that sleezeball!
If, however, he was not born in the U.S., under the law prevailing at the time of his birth, he would not be a U.S. citizen at birth due to his mother's age. While under current law a woman the same age would confer citizenship on her child, the change was not made to apply retroactively.
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