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Healthy food can make you ill?
The Times of India ^ | 22 Oct., 2008. | The Associated News of India (ANI)

Posted on 10/21/2008 9:07:33 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins

Healthy food can make an individual more susceptible to diseases, according to a new controversial book.

In the book titled, 'Trick and Treat: How Healthy Eating Is Making Us Ill,' author Barry Groves claims that healthy eating can sometimes fail to keep an individual hale and hearty.

"Most people are eating in a way that is unnatural to us as a species," the Telegraph quoted Barry, who holds a doctorate in nutritional science, as saying.

"We're a carnivorous species - our gut is identical to that of a big cat. Yet we're encouraged to eat foods that have been padded out with modified starch and vegetable oils, and complex carbohydrates such as bread, pasta and rice, which have all been labelled healthy - but not the fatty meat that our body actually recognises," he added.

He said that's the reason why we don't know when to stop eating.

"Try to eat too much fat - cheese, say - and your body will quickly tell you when it has had enough. But when you eat processed, 'low fat'' food, your body never gets the message it has had enough, so doesn't tell the mind it is full," he said.

Previous studies on rabbits have shown that eating saturated fat would lead to heart disease. This is because, Barry says, the rabbits were fed unnatural diet.

"The first, in 1950, showed that if rabbits were fed a cholesterol-rich diet, it would fur up their arteries.

"Yet, rabbits are only designed to eat plant life, which has no cholesterol. The clogged arteries were caused by feeding them an unnatural diet. It could have been an allergic response.

Taking about the other tenets of a healthy life - five portions of fruit and veg, wholegrain cereals, soya milk, low-fat yogurts, he said, "Vegetables are not the problem but there's no biological or chemical reason to eat them. Liver, for example, has all the minerals and vitamins we need," he added.

"But fruit? The natural sugar it contains - fructose - is much more dangerous than simple glucose or table sugar. It has been linked to the rise in obesity," he added.

He also revealed that wheat collects bacteria and dirt as it grows, and is impossible to clean. Then stored in silos, it is a haven for mice and rats, so it gets sprayed with insecticides. Put a wheat flower under the microscope and you'll see traces of rat faeces," he said.

Soy milk is made with unfermented soya beans - "highly dangerous," claims Barry. As for yogurts made with skimmed milk, they "lack conjugated linoleic acid, which prevents cancer".

For healthy eating he advised, "eat purer foods, and ones that are more natural to us as a species. Cut down on bread and eat more fish, eggs, butter - any animal protein, anything that used to move around, that wasn't stuck in the ground. Liver, kidneys, snails - even insects will do."


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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
But when you eat processed, 'low fat'' food, your body never gets the message it has had enough

So that is what happpened to that new box of Snack Well Cookies.

81 posted on 10/22/2008 3:51:11 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Vote McWhatshisname and PALIN)
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To: Nathan Zachary
IANAP. but one who wrote a compilation of dozens of diets out there (low-carb, no-carb, protein, low calorie, etc.) explained that most of the diet books in review had poor nutrition/biochemistry discussions in them--usually with flat-out errors.

It's a hyperglycemic condition

Don't you mean hypoglycemic? Or are you speaking of the chronic condition of hyperglycemia?

?If the latter, then recognize you are not writing about typical human body function.

Unless I'm misunderstanding her, carbohydrates are not required by the body, and the body will break down fats rather than just muscle proteins.

82 posted on 10/22/2008 3:54:42 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Not a single post that I’ve seen argues that humans are “mostly carnivorous”.

We are either vegetarians or we are omnivores.

And it has all-too-well been argued that we are in fact omnivores, not strictly vegetarian.

You might want to switch to decaff.


83 posted on 10/22/2008 4:05:08 AM PDT by djf (No milk on the shelves = blood in the streets. So what do we do? Send more money to the bankers!)
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To: Rennes Templar
Sorry, I am not wrong.Chimps, all chimps, hunt and kill animals, they do it regularly and they kill human babies and eat them also. It is proven fact. Also, if you want to compare humans to primates you must use Chimps as the comparison primate as they are our nearest relative.

The hunting and killing of animals by Chimps is well documented. You are lying to others and to yourself when you say they don't. Even the Bonono chimps, who were previously thought not to kill and eat animals, have been recently documented hunting and killing other primates for food.

Chimps hunts are well organized and with some chimps driving the prey toward other chimps who kill the prey. The dead animals are then divided up according to the rank of each chimp.

We are omnivorous and are so classified, our teeth are made for eating meat and veggies but we are, and always have been, primarily meat eaters.

84 posted on 10/22/2008 5:14:42 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Rennes Templar; Nathan Zachary; calex59; Rudder; Gondring; SatinDoll; Buchal

Golly geeeeeee RT

Let me guess.... You are a Vegan, and meat is murder?

Oh well... More tasty tasty murder meat for me and the other omnivores.

Send me your share of steak and bacon. You are more than welcome to my share of tofu and soy burgers.


85 posted on 10/22/2008 5:15:54 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Big Giant Head
Classic low-carb diet. Dr. Atkins was right.

Now he’s dead.


You failed to mention that he died from a closed head injury after falling on ice outside the hospital he worked.
86 posted on 10/22/2008 5:36:49 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Chimpanzees, our closest genetic relative, hunt and eat small critters such as mice and monkeys in addition to eating insects. As for our ancestors, they ate anything they could get their hands on! I often characterize homo sapiens as “beach apes” since we can swim, have a nose designed for diving under water, have an insulating layer of fat under our skin like seals, are relatively hairless, and thrive on seafood. Interesting factoid: Caribou stomp lemmings and eat them. Need protein in a harsh climate.


87 posted on 10/22/2008 6:47:32 AM PDT by darth
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To: Rennes Templar

Anyone remember what happened to Bill Walton?


88 posted on 10/22/2008 7:02:48 AM PDT by roofer13
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To: count-your-change

Human bodies produce glucose from Glutamine.


89 posted on 10/22/2008 7:36:44 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I have a very healthy diet. I’m a meat-eating vegetarian.
I said I am not against meat eating, I’m against fallacious arguments regarding our physiology.


90 posted on 10/22/2008 8:21:25 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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To: MetaThought

And alanine and starches.


91 posted on 10/22/2008 8:25:35 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

The human GI tract converts carbohydrates to glucose.
My correction bpointed to the fact that the liver does
not derive glucose from self-digesting proteins or breaking
down ingested proteins.


92 posted on 10/22/2008 8:29:26 AM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.com)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Metformin works to inhibit the conversion-release of glycogen stores into glucose by the liver. The liver does not convert proteins into glucose.


93 posted on 10/22/2008 8:32:01 AM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.com)
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To: Rennes Templar

RE: fallacious arguments regarding our physiology.

Chimps are omnivores, and we are omnivores. Nothing fallacious about that.

Baboons are ferocious hunters. I have personally seen one take down a springbok.

Baboons lean carnivore. Chimps lean herbivore. Humans lean neither way (well I do lean carnivore, and you herbivore apparently).


94 posted on 10/22/2008 8:39:13 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Glycogen Structure Segment. Glycogen is a polysaccharide of glucose (Glc) which functions as the secondary short term energy storage in animal cells. It is made primarily by the liver and the muscles, but can also be made by the brain, uterus, and the vagina.[1] Glycogen is the analogue of starch, a less branched glucose polymer in plants, and is commonly referred to as animal starch, having a similar structure to amylopectin. Glycogen is found in the form of granules in the cytosol in many cell types, and plays an important role in the glucose cycle. Glycogen forms an energy reserve that can be quickly mobilized to meet a sudden need for glucose, but one that is less compact than the energy reserves of triglycerides (fat). In the liver hepatocytes, glycogen can compose up to 8% of the fresh weight (100–120 g in an adult) soon after a meal. Only the glycogen stored in the liver can be made accessible to other organs. In the muscles, glycogen is found in a much lower concentration (1% of the muscle mass), but the total amount exceeds that in liver.

Function and regulation of liver glycogen.

As a meal containing carbohydrates is eaten and digested, blood glucose levels rise, and the pancreas secretes insulin. Glucose from the hepatic portal vein enters the liver cells (hepatocytes). Insulin acts on the hepatocytes to stimulate the action of several enzymes, including glycogen synthase. Glucose molecules are added to the chains of glycogen as long as both insulin and glucose remain plentiful. In this postprandial or “fed” state, the liver takes in more glucose from the blood than it releases.

After a meal has been digested and glucose levels begin to fall, insulin secretion is reduced, and glycogen synthesis stops. About four hours after a meal[citation needed], glycogen begins to be broken down and converted again to glucose. Glycogen phosphorylase is the primary enzyme of glycogen breakdown. For the next 8–12 hours, glucose derived from liver glycogen will be the primary source of blood glucose to be used by the rest of the body for fuel.


95 posted on 10/22/2008 8:46:06 AM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.com)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I have several utility patents pending on the topic of diabetes treatment and prevention. I can probably add twenty plus years of “healthier” life extension to your picture.


96 posted on 10/22/2008 8:50:09 AM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.com)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Nope, no vegans here! I occasionally consume small amounts of brown rice or corn tortillas, but stick to a basic low-carbohydrate & med-low fat (unsalted butter and olive oil) diet as I feel better with it.


97 posted on 10/22/2008 10:48:34 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: djf

I was referring to the author of this poor study:

“We’re a carnivorous species - our gut is identical to that of a big cat.”

One quick reference I found:

According to Valmik Thapar’s book ‘’tiger the ultimate guide’’

‘’Meat can be digested far more efficiently than grass. It requires a far less complicated gut to convert meat to protein than it does to convert grass to protein. Thus tigers have shortened guts (four times their body length, as compared with five times in an omnivorous fox) and comparatively small and light abdomens, a factor that contributes to the tiger’s ability to accelerate quickly when in pursuit of prey’’

So basically I would say a tiger’s intestine would be smaller than ours or any other omnivore.”


98 posted on 10/22/2008 11:55:44 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Actually, I’m naturally slim because of my genetics (1/4th Asian Indian) but as for the shape I’m in, but my muscles are defined, although they’re not that large. I would agree that they’re not that large. Even if I ate an entire buffalo every day, I wouldn’t get large because of my genetics.

As for you claiming I’m not in cardiovascular shape, here’s what I do normally for exercise.

1 mile of rollerblading a day to get ready for hockey season
6 miles of riding to taekwondo practice
2 hours of circuit strength and flexibility training before TKD class
TKD class, which includes insane amounts of cardio (30 minutes of kicking drills, stretching drills and running drills, the other part, we work on our forms and our one step sparrings)
1 more hour of strength training
6 mile bike ride back home.

I start the whole thing over again the next day. Except today since it’s raining and I don’t want to rust out the bearings of my skates.

During wintertime, this will be my most likely routine:

Go to the local park and ice skate for about an hour.
Ride my mountain bike to the gym (Note, this is Minnesota in the winter.)
Strength train for 2 hours
Taekwondo class.
Ride back home.

If I have time after going to my college classes, I’ll probably throw in jujutsu in the mix.

Weekends: Play hockey.

This is where you supply the ritual and expected ad hominem filled response. Time to get ready to go to TKD class.


99 posted on 10/22/2008 12:22:14 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: TypeZoNegative; Rennes Templar; Nathan Zachary; SatinDoll; LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; ...
Haven’t touched dead animal flesh in a year and a half [...]

Good for you! Dead animal flesh is to be buried, not eaten. I prefer them thrashing about when I chomp, too. Dang necrophages, eating dead animals...it's like they're jackals. ;-)

BTW, I get my b12 from yeast [...]

Please be sure that you're actually getting the B12 in there. Some yeast doesn't provide enough B12, and vegans have suffered from B12 deficiency even with yeast.

At least you're not getting your B12 the Iranian way. ;-)

100 posted on 10/22/2008 3:24:30 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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