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the tricky situation for China During Russia-Georgia Conflict
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=172052 ^ | Augu 28,2008 | kichong

Posted on 08/28/2008 5:11:04 AM PDT by badguy2200

The U.S. and NATO were the one that first violated UN Charter by recognizing Kosovo independence. Russia was against it and warned that the U.S. would open the Pandora's Box by recognizing Kosovo. Of course, the US was arrogant and full of itself, and the US didn't give a damn. It was the U.S. that opened the Pandora's Box in the first place.

So now Russia is returning the favor by recognizing the breakaway Georgian regions. The U.S. didn't give a damn about Russia before, so why should Russia give a damn about the U.S. right now? The U.S. can yell, scream and complain, but Russia really has all the power and leverage at this point, and Russia doesn't give a damn -- just like the U.S. didn't give a damn back during the Kosovo incident.

Now, should China support Russia? The problem here is that China has its own separatist problems (i.e., Tibet and Xinjiang.) However, the U.S. had already disregarded UN Charter by recognizing Kosovo independence, and then turned around and whined and complained about Russia doing the same thing with South Ossetia and Abkhazia. So it's clear that the U.S. holds a double standard for itself and other nation, and the U.S. do whatever they wants to do -- with no regard or respect for Russia or any other country.

That means even if China respects the U.S. right now by not supporting Russia, that does not mean the U.S. will return the favor in the future. Americans are not a people who go by the Chinese old saying "if you respect me three inches, I will respect you three feet." Americans demand respect while they go around disrespecting other countries all the time. Neither will Americans respect international laws -- if they want to do something, they'll do it whether it's following the laws or not. Americans set up international laws for others, not themselves, to follow.


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well, 7years ago, 9.11 event atracted USA's attention from fighting China to fighting Muslims. then China succeeded in obtain "precious 7 years" to escape from the attention of USA and develope itself.

Now, what Russia is doing ,just like 9.11 7 years ago,will pull USA's attention from CHina again....then CHina may luckily get another "gold 7 years" to arm itself economicly and militarily...

May Gold bless CHina!

1 posted on 08/28/2008 5:11:04 AM PDT by badguy2200
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To: badguy2200

Anyway, this new turn of event between the U.S. and Russia is actually good for China and Chinese.

The U.S. is always looking for an enemy, a bad guy. Or a couple. Just so they can be the “good guy”. Now that the U.S. has its hands full with the Islamic terrorists and Russians, they will leave Chinese alone.

Which means Hollywood — the biggest culprit of fanning anti-Chinese sentiment in America — will also start making movies with Russian bad guys instead of Chinese one.

then ,China can throw more resource to earn more money ,when USA and Russia throw more money into wars and fights.


2 posted on 08/28/2008 5:15:24 AM PDT by badguy2200
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To: badguy2200
Americans demand respect while they go around disrespecting other countries all the time.

So?

3 posted on 08/28/2008 5:17:30 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: badguy2200
The U.S. is always looking for an enemy, a bad guy.

And FR moderators are always looking for Chicom trolls. Later, dipweed...

4 posted on 08/28/2008 5:18:08 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: badguy2200

Well you must know of the ancient Chinese strategy of let “barbarians” fight “barbarians”. If this situation gets worse though, they will have to pick sides.


5 posted on 08/28/2008 5:22:06 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear (`)
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To: badguy2200

IBTZ!!!!......................


6 posted on 08/28/2008 5:23:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Admin Moderator

Well said, Mod !


7 posted on 08/28/2008 5:24:02 AM PDT by mick
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To: badguy2200

The Germans were the ones pushing Kosovo’s independence.

The US just went along.


8 posted on 08/28/2008 5:25:07 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: badguy2200

Vi King Ki Ti is not amused!..........

9 posted on 08/28/2008 5:25:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: badguy2200
but Russia really has all the power and leverage at this point, and Russia doesn't give a damn -- just like the U.S. didn't give a damn back during the Kosovo incident.

Russia thinks it has power and leverage, but it really has resource sales to the West and Western investment. Both of which could dry up at any moment leaving people waiting in line for toilet paper.

You are already seeing capital flight from Russia as investors realize that its not a safe place to invest. BP is finding out that the law there only works for special people.

China knows what it is doing. Russia is just strutting about and will get a hangover at some point.
10 posted on 08/28/2008 5:31:15 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: badguy2200

ESAD CHICOM!


11 posted on 08/28/2008 5:31:27 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: badguy2200

There are other things that China is factoring into its decisions. It has billions of dollars invested in US bonds and sells billions of dollars worth of goods in the US. As far as being a business partner is concerned, the US is reliable - it operates under a systems of laws, not a system of expropriation and thuggery like Russia.

China is crucially dependent on trade and overseas investments. If its economy tanks, with widespread unemployment, there is likely to be rebellion at home leading to instability of the regime.

China may be distrustful of both the US and Russia in political terms, but it will be very cautious about doing anything to upset its position in the US market or to do something to damage the US economy.


12 posted on 08/28/2008 5:32:10 AM PDT by BusterBear
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BAWHAHAHAH...wiping tears from my eyes....

dude seriously....are you engaged in this world at all or just viewing it thru a prism...

why dont you go back to dharfur and give some more of that chinese wisdom....i am sure they will welcome you...


13 posted on 08/28/2008 5:43:18 AM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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...the lunatic fringe, back at it again...some how, some way, everything bad that happens is because of America...how depressing it must be to have a “I'm sorry” mind set all the time.
14 posted on 08/28/2008 5:51:10 AM PDT by never4get (We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid)
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To: never4get

How much worse it would be to be Chinese with a

perpetual historic victim

mentality.


15 posted on 08/28/2008 5:52:30 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: badguy2200

Whenever thugs take over countries they always have to find an enemy - usually the big dog. So they always choose the U.S. Unfortunately the soviets (whoops, Russians) have an unbelievable inferiority complex that has driven their history. A dysfunctional state if there ever was one.


16 posted on 08/28/2008 6:02:22 AM PDT by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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To: badguy2200

did i make it?????? if so, buh bye


17 posted on 08/28/2008 6:04:59 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Constitutions reset button)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

“The US just went along.”

That was the German Air Force conducting bombing run after bombing run over Serbia?

Obama was part right when he said the US shouldn’t set bad examples if it wants to criticize actions such as Russia’s invasion of Georgia. He just had the wrong example (as usual). We should have stayed away from the Serbia/Kososvo situation beyond some humanitarian aid.

Among other motives, the Russians are taking a swipe at the US as revenge for our action against Serbia. And they do have a point as the Serbia/Georgia situations do have some things in common.


18 posted on 08/28/2008 6:27:33 AM PDT by Will88 (.)
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To: badguy2200; darkwing104; Old Sarge; Darksheare

Smoking remains of early morning zot here.


19 posted on 08/28/2008 6:53:20 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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To: badguy2200
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20 posted on 08/28/2008 6:54:42 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right)
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