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Conservatives Refusing to Support McCain: Here´s What You´ll Get
The American Chronicle ^ | August 26, 2008 | Nathaniel Shockey

Posted on 08/26/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There has been plenty of whining from conservatives concerning whether John McCain would select a pro-choice vice president. I just hope whining is all it is. As my colleague Dan Calabrese pointed out on August 21, the political leanings of the VP concerning abortion are largely irrelevant. The only way to meaningfully decrease the number of abortions is to convince people that abortion is a bad idea, not to legislate.

But this conservative whining must be starting to concern McCain and his political strategists at least a little. Maybe these people who keep complaining that McCain isn´t conservative enough are actually considering the possibility of not voting.

On one hand, Barack Obama simply isn´t popular enough to be truly threatening. He´s inexperienced, doesn´t understand the issues very well, doesn´t exude patriotism and has some horrendous relationship baggage. When you tally it up, it amounts to a major risk. And as past elections have shown, it´s been risks like these that have ultimately pushed people past the summer excitement and back into the autumn safety of conservative candidates who, if nothing else, seem more or less transparent.

But on the other hand, the support of the conservative base is an important element of this seasonal routine. So even if the swing voters play their role perfectly, as I suspect they will, it probably won´t be enough if a significant portion of the conservative base doesn´t vote.

So I must pose a question to the whining conservatives who are threatening to stay home on November 4, sitting in their La-Z-Boys with arms crossed, puffed up blood-tinted cheeks, and brows furrowed like a toddler who doesn´t want to take a nap. Are you prepared to deal with the consequences of an Obama presidency?

Realize that the average age on the U.S. Supreme Court is currently 68. John Paul Stevens is 88 and Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 75. Obama would select at least one, probably two new justices.

Bills that put crushing new requirements and taxes on businesses would almost certainly pass a Democratic Congress, and be signed by a president who has never run a lemonade stand in his life, much less a business. Don´t expect him to start vetoing bills just because they would drive our country´s deficit beyond anything prior.

Realize that Obama would not be aggressive on terrorism, that Islamofascists are probably licking their lips at the prospect of a passive American president who would be content to play defense, and would even take seriously the lip-service of radicals like the Iranian president. With an appeaser as our commander in chief, terrorist networks would inevitably regain strength, and more innocent people will die. Call it a scare tactic or anything you like. It´s completely logical.

Realize that 3 percent of Americans pay about half of America´s taxes. If we elect Obama, those numbers will be even more lopsided. Obama has pledged to increase taxes on the wealthy, who would, in turn, hide their money. That´s a brilliant plan if your goal is to completely stifle an economy.

Realize that Obama probably won´t allow America to drill for its own oil. Have you enjoyed watching our Congress take a vacation when we need them the most? With Obama at the helm, there will be even less pressure on them to do their jobs and get Americans the oil they desperately need. Expect more of the same naïve lip service that describes local oil-drilling as the problem, and not as the obvious solution it is.

Realize that when Obama talks about creating jobs, he means he will be building even more government agencies. He is not talking about letting the economy naturally flourish and creating jobs by getting the government out of the way. If you are ready for an even bigger government than our current one, Obama is your man.

Of course, Obama would not be without an upside. The evening news would be much more upbeat when the media´s biggest crush becomes the most powerful man in the world for four years. There would be no more of the incessantly grim ramblings to which we´ve become so accustomed.

Finally, realize that Obama has good intentions. I respect that he is an idealist, even if I disagree with his ideals. And if we do elect him, I don´t think America will crumble. I just think he would leave it in even worse condition than the one in which he found it.

So to conservative boneheads out there, standing in the corner, pouting because your first choice isn´t the Republican nominee, it´s time you got over it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; boneheads; compromise; conservativevote; election; electionpresident; elections; mccain; mccainbot; obama; obamatruthfile; rationalizing
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I have to vote for John McCain, whether I want to or not. Staying home or voting third party/write-in would be disobeying the oath I took on June 12th, 1978 to protect and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. You must do what your conscience tells you is right.
1 posted on 08/26/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You must do what your conscience tells you is right.

I appreciate your thoughts, but my family and I are doing what God says is right. We refuse to support any candidate that has policies that shed innocent blood in any way.

Barack Obama is a pro-abort.

John McCain supports embryonic stem cell research.

Therefore, neither one will be receiving our vote.
2 posted on 08/26/2008 7:32:53 PM PDT by politicket (If it defaults, call Rit something else and sell more of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There has been plenty of whining from conservatives

This post and the thousands like it shows where the whining is.

3 posted on 08/26/2008 7:34:42 PM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
John McCain

My vote is for McCain......sigh....

4 posted on 08/26/2008 7:35:29 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Keep whining, maybe McCain will get it into his thick skull that there is absolutely NO reason to have A pro-choice veep.....none at all, and one HUGE reason to have a pro-life veep, even if the veep has no influence on the abortion issue.....and that reason is.....:ABORTION IS MURDER!

Also the author’s premise is wrong, you can’t convince people that abortion is wrong as long as it is legal. Legislation IS the answer, and the ONLY answer.


5 posted on 08/26/2008 7:35:59 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Obama Bin Biden.........thank you Lord, thank you thank you thank you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why should I vote for a traitor to my cause?
He’ll deliver half of what I want and I should be grateful?
John McCain has stabbed conservatives in the back for years and we are suppose to accept the lesser of two evils?
If John McCain wants to outrank his father and grandfather, perchance he should stop stabbing me in the back and realize he should be supporting me.

His choice for VP will tell me if he has grown and accepted reality.

Otherwise, hello President 0bama.


6 posted on 08/26/2008 7:36:43 PM PDT by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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To: politicket
I urge you to reconsider. I agree that McCain's position on embryonic stem cell research is inconsistent (to put it mildly), but McCain would appoint judges who are much more likely to protect (most of) the unborn than the judges Obama would appoint. To paraphrase Voltaire, the best is the enemy of the good.
7 posted on 08/26/2008 7:39:19 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I certainly won’t be voting for John McCain, but I will be voting against Obama.

Big difference...


8 posted on 08/26/2008 7:39:46 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain’s mother pointed out (laughing about it) that conservatives have no choice but to hold their noses and vote for her son. I have the benefit of living in California and can withhold my vote for McCain without it causing any difference. I will vote for conservatives and only conservatives in the upcoming election.


9 posted on 08/26/2008 7:40:38 PM PDT by rbbeachkid (When is enough enough?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So to conservative boneheads out there

Attacking conservatives but yet demanding that they vote for your RINO. Brilliant strategy there.

If McCain chooses a pro-abortion VP, I'm staying home.

10 posted on 08/26/2008 7:42:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (All hail our leader, our savior, our beloved, The Messiah Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Realize that the average age on the U.S. Supreme Court is currently 68

And Sen. McCain will be 72 on Friday. He's already lived out his natural life expectancy. His vice presidential pick has a very realistic chance of being the next one to make a SCOTUS nomination.

11 posted on 08/26/2008 7:42:33 PM PDT by fzx12345 (ZOTTO ERGO SUM)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama and his crew have done the impossible for me and made McCain into someone I'd vote for again. However, McCain could reset my voting mechanism back depending upon his choice for VP. If he picks Huckleberry, I won't be able to vote for them regardless of how much Chuck Norris likes the Huckster and even if that means President Obama and Vice President Biden.
12 posted on 08/26/2008 7:43:00 PM PDT by GBA
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To: utahagen

Sure. I REALLY believe that McCain will nominate conservative judges. He’ll just “maverick” again.

See tagline.


13 posted on 08/26/2008 7:43:14 PM PDT by Politicalmom (President McCain: "Ok, Ted, I want your list of supreme court nominees on my desk by Monday.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You must do what your conscience tells you is right.

Mine tells me hat I can't vote for a pro abortion candidate. I truly hope McCain dooesn't challenge my conscience.

14 posted on 08/26/2008 7:43:29 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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15 posted on 08/26/2008 7:43:45 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: org.whodat
This post and the thousands like it shows where the whining is.

Yep, it's the same-old scare tactics. Conservatives don't march in lockstep with their party like libs do. We are independent thinkers and can't be herded like cattle. That's what pisses off the GOP establishment and their sycophants.

This election is McCain's to lose.

16 posted on 08/26/2008 7:45:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (All hail our leader, our savior, our beloved, The Messiah Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the lesser of 2 evils is necessary. do not sit at home. you sit at home, you get Obama, imagine the spilling of National Security secrets all over the middle East with that tool in the POTUS chair. At least with McCain we are getting a soldier, and a true American, and we know he won’t allow partial birth abortion.T he abortion issue may not be resolved in our lifetime, but we must start by getting our foot in the door. How do you think Dummies get their way? They have had Decades of legislative chipping away. Now we must put the chips back in place... and it isn’t going to take 4 years to do it.... but it’s a start.


17 posted on 08/26/2008 7:45:52 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The only way to meaningfully decrease the number of abortions is to convince people that abortion is a bad idea, not to legislate."

The real difference between liberals and conservatives is the way they view the balance between what the legislature controls and what the culture controls. That balance changes, predictably toward liberalism throughout the life of a republic, hence its predictable lifespan. It also explains why some formally rock-ribbed conservatives are shilling for McCain. We live in interesting times.

18 posted on 08/26/2008 7:46:08 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Returning the ball back to McLosers court.

19 posted on 08/26/2008 7:47:05 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
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McCain’s mother pointed out (laughing about it) that conservatives have no choice but to hold their noses and vote for her son.

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20 posted on 08/26/2008 7:47:12 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Don't steal. John McCain and Barack Obama hate competition.)
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