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Obama BIRTH CERTIFICATE MYSTERY
TexasDarlin Blog ^

Posted on 06/22/2008 2:03:51 PM PDT by WilliamReading

ollowing up on previous posts in the past couple of days about Barack Obama’s “birth certificate,” here and here, I became more curious about Barack’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (known as “Ann”), and spent several hours reading about her. In particular, I was searching for information about the circumstances surrounding Barack’s birth.

It seems reasonable to ask at this point: Is it possible that Barack Obama, Ann’s son, was born someplace besides Honolulu?

Here’s a rough sketch of what I’ve pieced together so far based on information available on the Internet, but I could use some help filling in the blanks. Questions are presented at the end.

Spring/Summer 1960 – Ann Dunham, at the age of 17, moves with her parents from Mercer Island, Washington following her high school graduation, to Honolulu Hawaii, where her father, Stanley, has a new sales job in a furniture store.

Fall 1960– Ann starts classes at the Univ. of Hawaii’s East West Centre, a well known center of leftist thought, and shortly thereafter meets Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan student, in a Russian language class.

Oct/Nov. 1960– Barack Obama Jr. is conceived.

Dec. 1960/Jan. 1961– Ann, now 18 years old, and Obama announce to their families plans to marry. Both the Dunham and Obama parents are unhappy with the news. By this time Ann’s mother Madelyn Dunham has become a bank president in Honolulu.

Feb. 1961– Ann reportedly marries Obama Sr., but it’s unclear where this took place, who was present, and whether the marriage is documented.

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TOPICS: Politics
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To: Sig Sauer P220
Why haven’t Hillary’s goons investigated this?

Who broke into Obama's passport file, and what were they looking for?

81 posted on 06/22/2008 8:36:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Cut the birth certificate crap! It's the communism, stupid!)
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To: mamelukesabre

If you read the additional analyses I made today (polarik.townhall.com), the only conclusion that can be reached is that the images posted on the “Daily Kos” and “Fight the Smears” are altered images, and not, in any way, true reproductions of a genuine document.

Assuming, of course, that Patricia Decosta’s image is a true reproduction, which it is, given the compelling evidence that validates it, such as embossed seals, signatures, true fold marks, etc.

If you or anyone can find more plausible reasons for all of the differences found between Obama’s image and Decosta’s image, I’d like to hear them.

However, I sincerely doubt I will, for not only are the images on these websites manufactured, they even differ from each other (check the corners of the borders).

The fact that there are so many others who have also found these differences tend to reinforce the conclusion.

Which is, to repeat, that these images are manufactured.

All we need now is to hear an admission of same.


82 posted on 06/22/2008 8:40:10 PM PDT by Polarik (The Greater Evil)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
My son (army brat) was born in Germany. It never occurred to me that he'd not be eligible for POTUS.

So the children of ambassadors couldn't be POTUS if born outside the country?

That *is* stupid.

83 posted on 06/22/2008 8:52:22 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: Jim Noble
But whether or not his parents were married is irrelevant, because the law in 1961 was that BOTH parents had to be US nationals (at least) to confer birthright citizenship.

Thanks for clearing that up.

84 posted on 06/22/2008 8:57:42 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: WilliamReading

I’d also like to know if he registered for selective service, and where is his baptismal certificate?
Why no papers from his college, community organization years? Looks like he/they were determined not to leave a paper trail.


85 posted on 06/22/2008 9:00:50 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: mamelukesabre
The only thing that I find slightly curious is that no one is asking the state of hawaii to verify barak’s electronic copy...or for barak to produce the original that barak(presumeably) made the copy from.

It's the lack of seal that confuses me.

86 posted on 06/22/2008 9:00:55 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: river rat

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It is confusing isnt it ???

That’s why I always pick Pacific Islander for myself...

true..I do...


87 posted on 06/22/2008 9:02:07 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

“I think his Mom is dead..

And grandma is.......white...”

Typically white. And afraid to be out alone at night around people she doesn’t know. Racist to the core, it would seem.


88 posted on 06/22/2008 9:15:05 PM PDT by COgamer
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To: mamelukesabre

“Before the age of computers, records were lost all the time. When you get right down to it, we have to take his word and his relative’s word for it. It’s not always possible to prove when and where you were born.”

Did the job he’s seeking not have very specific when/where birth requirements, you might have a point. Unfortunately (for him and his supporters) he must provide proof he qualifies for the position.


89 posted on 06/22/2008 9:16:31 PM PDT by COgamer
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To: Jim Noble

The same people who also broke into McCain and Hillary’s passport files. Obama supporters, as it turns out.


90 posted on 06/22/2008 9:21:29 PM PDT by COgamer
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To: Marie

If your son was born on an army base he’d be eligible, since that’s considered U.S. soil. Same hold true with American embassies around the world.


91 posted on 06/22/2008 9:35:02 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Two Kids' Dad

Nope. Born on the economy. The military post we were stationed at was too small for a hospital. That’s not uncommon.

From what I understand, he *is* a citizen in every way. He has a “US Citizen Born Abroad” birth certificate. Both his parents were US Citizens. Seriously, I don’t think it’s a problem.

The problem would arise if one of us *wasn’t* a US citizen. Then he’d have dual citizenship and that could be a problem for POTUS if he were born outside of the country.

I think.


92 posted on 06/22/2008 9:40:26 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: WilliamReading

Barack Hussein and Stanley Ann were studying Russian about the same time as Lee Harvey.

BHO senior was a Luo with an Arabic name and that tribe preferred to call themselves Arab rather than Negro. Luos were historically slavers. Barry learned the Koran in Arabic in Indonesia which was unusual for Indonesians.

Perhaps the original birth certificate lists the father as “Arab”.


93 posted on 06/22/2008 9:41:48 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: Polarik; WilliamReading; devolve; Jeff Head
The certificate released by the Obama people does not appear to be a scan of a physical document, but rather a completely computer-generated image.

The certificate for Decosta is readily seen to be a scan of a physical document: a) folds are visible; b) the seal is obviously embossed; c) the disclaimer is imprinted; d) the border is official and precise, not assembled from spare parts.

The certificate number AREA is a black rectangle because the "certificate" offered by the Obama people is a FORGERY which conceals a flaw fatal to the Obama candidacy.

There is no corroboration of this certificate besides a candidate who is busily amassing one hundred provable lies.

And the physics presents difficulties: how were his parents able to attend the Selma march, then travel back in time to conceive and produce him in 1961.


94 posted on 06/22/2008 9:50:41 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: OldEagle

Elmore Leonard wrote it, when he was still writing westerns.


95 posted on 06/22/2008 9:58:21 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Tennessee Nana

I believe you, because I’ve seen the choice on some forms...

Not sure if it’s on Birth Certificates or other Legal Documents — but you’re right — it’s on MANY forms..


96 posted on 06/22/2008 10:00:55 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

1952 The Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S. Code Section 1401 (b). (Section 301 of the Act).

“Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: “(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof; “

(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.

(b) Any person who is a national and citizen of the United States at birth under paragraph (7) of subsection (a), shall lose his nationality and citizenship unless he shall come to the United States prior to attaining the age of twenty-three years and shall immediately following any such coming be continuously physically present in the United State(s) for at least five years: Provided, That such physical presence follows the attainment of the age of fourteen years and precedes the age of twenty-eight years.

(c) Subsection (b) shall apply to a person born abroad subsequent to May 24, 1934: Provided, however, That nothing contained in this subsection shall be construed to alter or affect the citizenship of any person born abroad subsequent to May 24, 1934, who, prior to the effective date of this Act, has taken up a residence in the United States before attaining the age of sixteen years, and thereafter, whether before or after the effective date of this Act, complies or shall comply with the residence requirements for retention of citizenship specified in subsections (g) and (h) of section 201 of the Nationality Act of 1940, as amended.” http://www.aca.ch/hisuscit.htm


97 posted on 06/22/2008 10:55:20 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Hey media! Obama goes to Rezko church 6/15/08...Ask him about it)
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To: WilliamReading
In 1961, person was not automatically natural born if one of their parent's was a foreigner. THAT it is the issue that we know of. Goodness knows what else there is that he is hiding.
98 posted on 06/22/2008 10:58:02 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Hey media! Obama goes to Rezko church 6/15/08...Ask him about it)
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To: PghBaldy

(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.

Clearly states that if Obama was born outside of the United States to Anne and BHO Sr (an alien), that Obama JR is NOT to be considered a CITIZEN, because Anne was only 18 years old when BHO Jr was born, and had to be 19 to qualify under this law.

If Obama can’t prove that he was born in Hawaii, he may well be ineligible to be President . .


99 posted on 06/23/2008 4:10:41 AM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: KarinG1

You should listen to more reggae. Bob Marley urged Africans to unite...


100 posted on 06/23/2008 4:28:54 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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