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The War on "No" Is Child "Centered Parenting" producing a generation of brats?
Babble ^ | 11/30/07 | Kathryn J. Alexander

Posted on 11/30/2007 8:18:46 AM PST by qam1

Extreme parenting has come to be associated with images of overly involved parents — this generation's stage parents, who manage and control every minute of their child's life, imposing their adult dreams and desires onto the little ones in a pathetic attempt to fuel their own insatiable need for success and recognition. As familiar as this parental profile has become, another form of extreme parenting has emerged, one that is getting harder to ignore. I am referring to the increasingly ubiquitous parenting approach that rejects the use of the word "no," and in which even the most reasonable degree of parental limit-setting is consistently absent.

Most of us have been in social situations where we've observed, with incredulity, a parent bow to the extreme demands of a menacingly persistent child, inches from a tantrum — "Okay, but honey, that's your last package of Twizzlers before breakfast." Worse, many of us too often have been that parent. What is happening here? I thought the Dr. Spock generation put an end to tyrannical rule within family life a few generations ago. It did not. In too many families the tyrant still rules — but today he is much shorter.

How did the power balance in our parent-child relationship become so off-kilter? In what other relationship would we give in to someone we love, as a matter of course, saying "yes" to every demand, every whim, no matter how unreasonable — and expect our emotional connection to remain unharmed? "I know, dear, our new neighbor really is a knock-out, especially in that two-piece. Well, okay, but just this once, and don't be home too late, it's a work night."

On the very far end of the non-confrontational parenting trend, and seemingly designed for parents who would rather get out of the driver's seat altogether, is an organization called Taking Children Seriously. TCS adherents attempt to parent without infringing upon the children's will. When there's a conflict, they find a compromise between the child's and parent's desires; eliminating the win/lose dynamic. The examples provided on their website seem absurdly idealistic, and impossible for any parent who needs to care for a newborn sibling, meet a deadline or get dinner on the table to implement. Not to mention, this approach seems to overlook the profound limitations of a young child's capacity for reason and impulse control

Aside from this extreme example, this recent transformation in child-rearing appears to be a twisted, supercharged version of what began benignly as a "child-centered" approach to family life. Its effect on our children is attracting notice — and not just among our in-laws. Several new books have appeared within the last year, each identifying a cultural phenomenon of concern to any of us who are attempting to raise happy, healthy, well-adjusted children. If the experts' predictions are on target, we're facing a future filled with overgrown, ill-tempered, and entitled Baby Hueys who will spend their adulthood wondering why they can't sustain an intimate adult relationship or hold down a decent job.

It's not just that many American parents are under-parenting by not setting reasonable limits. Paradoxically, we are also over-parenting by making every effort to ensure that our children are not given the opportunity to fail. At the same time, our pediatricians are urging us to cut back on the excessive use of hand sanitizers and antibiotics (kids need exposure to some germs if their immune systems are going to successfully fight the really bad ones), our child development experts are telling us to stop excessively slathering our children with the word "Yes." Our kid's emotional "immune systems" need exposure to life lessons that involve at least the risk of disappointment, failure or emotional turmoil if they are going to be able to withstand the bigger setbacks and losses they will inevitably face in adulthood.

An increasing number of childcare experts suggest that American parents are in dire need of a comprehensive re-evaluation of how effectively we are raising our children. If parents, like most employees, received an end-of-year job evaluation, this year's would be a particularly uncomfortable assessment. Don't even think about a performance-based bonus...........


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: anarchy; doasthouwill; genx; hedonism; ifitfeelsgooddoit; parenting
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To: qam1

Producing? It’s already produced them.


21 posted on 11/30/2007 8:43:25 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: qam1

This “child-centered” (so-called) parenting seems to be the norm. I cannot stand to be near most people’s brats on airlines, in restaurants, or at malls. They seem oblivious to well-managed stares and ‘the hairy eyeball’.


22 posted on 11/30/2007 8:47:06 AM PST by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: qam1
apathy does not equate to love, concern, or good parenting. It’s easy for the parent and some especially teenage kids may like it, but it’s more or less a parent abdicating their role as a parent.
23 posted on 11/30/2007 8:53:33 AM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: OCCASparky

Bottom line—we treat our kids as equals, not as parent-child, and wonder why they get upset when some put their foot down eventually...

...interestingly, while we (the Grown-Ups) maintain the attitude that WE are the adults around here, YOU are the KIDS and it’s the ADULTS who make the decisions, we are accused of ‘violating’ their ‘rights’ as humans by not recognizing them as ‘equals.’

They get this from school.

We laugh it off and get the final word, (usually ;) but these kids are actually being engineered into thinking they should have as much authority and say-so as adults.

Not only that, but from *very* young ages, they are told they can call Children-Youth Services if they feel they are being ‘abused.’ (which can be anything from a severe beating to being made to sit in a corner or made to eat their brocolli.)

I’ve read/heard enough horror stories that once a call is placed, you can be embroiled in a battle with these dimwits simply for giving the kid Cheerios over Captain Crunch if the kid calls and cries ‘abuse!’

When mine were younger, I cringed at the idea when they’d make the threat....now that they are older, I tell them, ‘Here, would you like me to make the call FOR you? YOU will be the one put into foster care in the ghetto with 9 other kids and at least I won’t have to listen to your mouth for a few days.’


24 posted on 11/30/2007 8:55:35 AM PST by Dasaji (The U.S.A. is the Land of Opportunity and you've got 50 states to do it in!)
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To: qam1

“No” was the second word my little son learned this year. The first word being the cat’s name of course, who helped him learn to walk.


25 posted on 11/30/2007 8:57:31 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: qam1

Beat their arse and send them to their room to think about it. Rinse. Repeat until you get the desired behavior. It worked in my family.


26 posted on 11/30/2007 8:58:41 AM PST by LetsRok
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To: qam1

We are trying to parent with the goal of teaching our son to be independent AND civilized. This is much harder than I anticipated. At fifteen months, it seems like we are experiencing the “terrible two’s”. He will frequently say “no, no, no, ...” as he is doing what we have previously told him not to do.

I may now be paying the price for all the complaining I used to do about other peoples’ children.


27 posted on 11/30/2007 8:59:59 AM PST by OldNukeDaddy
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To: qam1

I find this to be great news.

Generations of muppets can’t compete with those I’m related to that were brought up properly. It bodes well for their success.


28 posted on 11/30/2007 9:00:07 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Philistone
Children are born liberals. The role of parenting is one of civilizing them into conservatives.

That is the quote of the day, I think!

29 posted on 11/30/2007 9:01:07 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: ConservaTexan
The most insightful statement I have read in a while. If you give little hedonists everything they want they will grow into big hedonists.

That's very true. I have a BIL who proudly called himself a "hedonist" years ago. Let's just say he's lived up to the label. Did I mention he had lousy parents?
30 posted on 11/30/2007 9:02:03 AM PST by khnyny (Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Winston Churchill)
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To: ConservaTexan

When my daughters tell me she wants something, I always reply that I want a daughter who eats her vegetables. I then ask her If I am going to get what I want. She says, “No.” I then respond, “We don’t always get what we want, do we?”


31 posted on 11/30/2007 9:10:06 AM PST by art_rocks
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To: OldNukeDaddy

Children are not mature enough to be “independent”.

Seriously, see my link above, read the book from your library. It makes a lot of sense. If he’s old enough to understand a command, he’s old enough to obey you, willingly and cheerfully.

When the child has enough parental guidance under his belt, THEN he can be independent, and more confidently so.

Incidentally, I talked to a Vietnamese family a while back, and out of curiosity asked about the “terrible two’s” - they hadn’t heard of it. Described it to the mother and she said “oh, that’s just misbehavior - spanking consistently cures that”.


32 posted on 11/30/2007 9:12:42 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: qam1

My wife works childcare at our church preschool. She’s got 2 of these little hellions, both supposedly being raised in Christian homes. I happened to be there one day when one boy told my wife “no” when asked to pick up the mess he had made - I asked him if he tells his parents “no” - he nodded his head yes.


33 posted on 11/30/2007 9:31:01 AM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: qam1
For my kids, their first word is often "no". And they learn from an early age that throwing a tantrum is the best way to get mommy and daddy to take your toys away for the whole day and stick you in the "penalty box".

Needless to say, we don't have a tantrum problem...
34 posted on 11/30/2007 9:36:19 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: Think free or die
Thanks in good measure to my tough-as-nails husband, they hear "no" quite regularly. They help with yard work and house cleaning, which was a normal thing in households of our youth. In our community, this is now rare.

Indeed. Our kids vaccuum, sweep, dust, fold laundry, etc. And the oldest is 5.
35 posted on 11/30/2007 9:38:55 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: TonyRo76
Yup!

This next generation as “adults” is going to be something else! Road rage will be nothing compared to what their behavior will be like.

36 posted on 11/30/2007 9:39:26 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: OldNukeDaddy
He will frequently say “no, no, no, ...” as he is doing what we have previously told him not to do.

That is called disrespect, even when accompanied by doing what he is told. Properly, consistently and lovingly applied spanking works on that too
37 posted on 11/30/2007 9:40:40 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Dasaji

LOL!


38 posted on 11/30/2007 9:41:49 AM PST by olivia3boys
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To: art_rocks
When my daughters tell me she wants something, I always reply that I want a daughter who eats her vegetables. I then ask her If I am going to get what I want. She says, “No.” I then respond, “We don’t always get what we want, do we?”

So you are teaching you don't have to listen to her by pointing out that she does not have to listen to you...
39 posted on 11/30/2007 9:43:08 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TonyRo76

Undisciplined Children = Spoiled Brats = Liberal Peter Pans


40 posted on 11/30/2007 9:47:37 AM PST by Sioux-san
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