Posted on 05/30/2007 11:07:49 AM PDT by avacado
"What happens to the GOP if amnesty is enacted?"
It's a peculiar question given the posts I have read since before, and after, the 2006 mid-term elections regarding teaching Republicans a lesson. My Houston, Texas Congressman (John Culberson) and two Texas Senators fought hard against the amnesty immigration bills. But since the Republicans are being "taught a lesson" by ultra-conservatives these fine conservatives who represent me in both Houses have been sidelined. So by teaching the Republicans a lesson what did you expect other than for amnesty to pass? It's sort of a captain obvious moment, don't cha'think! Reduce the Republicans to a minority in both Houses and expect for amnesty to not pass!?
Who exactly is being taught a lesson?
I hate to tell you this, but it wasn't conservatives that caused the GOP to lose in 2006. It was swing voters.
So you are making a pointless point, made even more absurd by the fact that you have shown little indication that you are the least bit concerned about shamnesty and instead are spinning Bush's earlier positions on such.
That`s a matter of opinion. I am against this turkey (it won`t become law), but the President has been consistent.
No, he wants to turn US into a Venezuela. Lots of gardeners, maids, and butlers for the elite in their mansions or on their plantations / ranches until the day arrives when a Castro or Chavez type demagogue uses Marxist rhetoric to get voted into office. With the Republican party destroyed, that won’t be hard. Since Bush is destroying the middle class by importing millions of impoverished peons to compete with American workers, we will have a latin-america style country with a small ultra rich elite of Kennedys and Bushs and the rest impoverished peons working for subsistence wages. Read Ann Coulter to discover how this paradise of cheap labor for the ultra-rich eventually turns out. (Can you spell C.U.B.A or Venezuela?)
Source please. He says he is against amnesty now and that the senate bill is not amnesty.
You are correct and I corrected myself in another post to another poster. I should have been clear and said that it was the attitude expressed here about teaching a lesson is what didn't seem logical to me. If getting anesty is the lesson, I think we all got schooled!
He talked about it as Governor of Texas. As for calling it "amnesty," it's a matter of semantics. Bush has always been for worker permits and a pathway to citizenship. He's been very clear about that even in the late 1990s.
Well, what surprises me is your surprise about we conservatives being surprised by just how many Republicans are going along with this POS bill, and their surprise at our surprised reaction to this surprise.
You need to wrestle with your own internal logical problems first. Bush was for some kind of shamnesty all along. We voted for him despite that, not because of it, because we were being good pubbies. That does NOT negate our perogative to try and stop him now. If anything, it should give us MORE of a voice - if we had voted third party because of this issue, BUSH WOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT NOW. It's called screwing over the ones who brought you to the dance.
If you had any integrity, you would quit belittling us for something we did not do and yell at Bush to quit shafting so many folks who voted for him.
Back in high school, there was one kid, an idiot, who constantly told us, "I'm smarter than you!" When Gore pulled this, I knew he was nothing more than a poser. My (for the moment) President won't put this chew toy down. I don't know what is driving My People (for the moment) to push for this insane idea. Brain slugs? Pods? Something in the Beltway water? But I have told them all, top down, this is the limit. It is time for the party to do something for ME for a change.
Yes I know that. I am from Texas. He was for amnesty when he was Governor. They way to have stopped him was to keep a Republican majority in both Houses. Since that is not the case, obviously, amnesty shall become law. I am against it. I am just surprised that so many are surprised that with a Republican minority that amnesty would not pass.
Words mean something. He wanted a guest worker program. He never ran on amnesty and is trying to distance himself now from that word. Bush and the rest of the open border types know that the American people are overwhelmingly against AMNESTY. Bush also said he would secure the border. Six years later and more than five years after 9/11, the border has not been secured. He has built 11 miles of single fence after the October 2006 Secure Fence Act was passed authorizing 854 miles of double fence.
Bush has been duplicitous on immigration and this Orwellian Newspeak has no one fooled.
The game will be over.
Who the hell cares about fighting over partisan scraps?
First, I am a conservative. Second, if you had watched the voting roll calls on the "amnesty" bills when the Republicans were a majority in both Houses you'd know that these current bills would never had seen the light of day. Since they are now a minority, all the Republicans can do is try and stuff some pork into the bills for their respective districts and states and let it pass.
Where has anyone expressed surprise? Bush Admin officials were almost giddy about the prospect of passing shamnesty when the GOP lost last November.
I really don't know whay point you are trying to make here. You've already admitted that swing voters, not conservatives, are the reason the GOP lost in November. Your point about Bush being for shamnesty all along undermines your initial premise. So do us a favor. If you're just here to rag on Bush opponents, do it some other time when Bush isn't trying to screw the country and the GOP.
Oh great. I thought the ones who blamed conservatives for the actions of RINOs had all moved on to Hide-a-Flakes or DarwinAwardCentral.
I realize that. I am a computer scientist and think is terms of pure boolean logic. It may be too binary for you.
The Republicans lost in 2006 because they continued to act like liberals, spending like drunken sailors, finding overeaching government solutions to minor individual problems, and attempting to grant amnesty to well over 10 million criminals. And if they continue to act like liberals, they will continue to lose.
I've done just about every type of job in the computer industry, including many years of programming. I currently gather and write requirements for developers, including plenty of flowcharts. So shove your condescension where the sun don't shine. You are making pointless points. You need to spend less time writing code and also spend less time throne-sniffing.
As are some posters.
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