Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 - Columbia, SC 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread

May 15, 2007

[CounterCounterCulture]

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 – Columbia, South Carolina 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Watch live coverage of the First-in-the-South Republican Party Presidential Candidate debate on FOX News Channel and FOXNews.com on Tuesday, May 15, at 9 p.m. EDT (6 p.m. PDT).

• Sam Brownback
• Jim Gilmore
• Rudy Giuliani
• Mike Huckabee
• Duncan Hunter
• John McCain
• Mitt Romney
• Ron Paul
• Tom Tancredo
• Tommy Thompson

The 90-minute debate will air from 9 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. ET (6 p.m. to 7:30 p.m.) and will be moderated by "Special Report" anchor Brit Hume. Questions will be posed by two panelists — "FOX News Sunday" host Chris Wallace and White House correspondent Wendell Goler.

[Tolsti]

Ron Paul’s out of his mind.

[James W. Fannin]

Giuliani may be a liberal, but he's also a patriot.

If he's a patriot, he's misguided. He's in favor of breaking down the Constitution instead of deporting the threat and closing the borders with firepower.

This is my personal litmus test: if a candidate is for the unconstitutional provisions of the Patriot Act, he's a threat to our freedom. The only way to be pro-security and be against the spying clauses of the Patriot Act is to plan on and actually carry through with mass deportation.

It's coming, or this country will be destroyed. Those who refuse to discuss it, are only prolonging our suffering. And any candidate who has ever been pro-gun control is also off my list. At a time like this with weasels running both parties, we absolutely must retain our second amendment rights.

[pulaskibush]

Ron Paul is on FoxNews.

[jwalsh07]

No, that isn’t correct. There have been five properly declared wars in US history. The War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, the Spanish American War, WWI and WWII.

Yes, I am correct. There is NO method or madness in the United States Constitution for declaring war. If there was you would have already quoted it.

If COngress wants to authorize a war it has to actually declare, not delegate its war powers to the President with some limp wristed “authority.”

Incorrect. Congress authorizes, the CIC executes. Ever it was and hopefully, ever it shall be.

What you and your fellow travelers do by beating the declare war horse is let the gutless Congress off the hook every time. I repeat Congress authorizes war, the CIC executes that war. The actions in Iraq and Afghanistan were not Saturday Night at the Movies, they were and are wars. Congress exercised it's war powers by authorizing same and the CIC is executing. The current Congress has passed unconstitutional legislation, vetoed by the POTUS, impinging on the Executives War Powers. You have it exactly backwards just like Ron Paul.

[Swordfished]

I told you that I was on this thread to LEARN what took place at THIS particular debate. I have yet to read one of your posts that was on topic of tonight's debate. Nothing more or less!!!!!

I don't know why EV's copy/paste jobs aren't considered thread SPAM, when they have no direct relation to the topic of the thread. At a maximum they should be links to outside sources.

[txradioguy]

al-Qaeda is that country right next to “The Barbary Pirates”.

You know...the Arab Terrorists that declared war on us and that we “handled properly”.

Now run along back to DU and get more Liberal talking points.

I spent a year in Iraq...while you were sitting back here enjoying the safety myself and other soldiers provide you.

You have nothing more to offer me in this debate with your uninformed insepid drivel.

[patriciaruth]

After 9/11, if I was in charge I would have asked the Taliban for OBL and his supporters.

We did.

It was in an official State Department communique and also in the speech to Congress.

[Brimack34]

Ron Paul is a jerk and should go away. I would have smacked him. Hunter is the Best thing we have going.

[mylife]

Huh?

deposed the tyrant.
Deposed the tryanical succesors.
Iraqis wrote a new constitution (it took 11 yrs to ratify our own)

Free elections 3 times.
Federalization.

sucsessful training of Iraqi forces.
free malitias arming and aligning agaisnt the al queda foriegners.

free trade.

Oh yeah. its a freekin quagmire

[JerseyDvl]

And off his meds.

[K-oneTexas]

But he is not against the greatest threat to the country at this time .... terrorism and the radical Muslims perpetrating it.

[Tennessee Nana]

And dont forget the TownHall meetings that the Clintons are soooooooooooo good at...

:)

[Tolsti]

Ouch Paul’s burying himself more!

[EternalVigilance]

They were responses to your Romney fellow-travelers lies. Live with it.

[LibertarianInExile]

Paul is saying now on Fox to that blowhard Hannity what he should have said to Giuliani.

[sonic109]

You are VERY mixed up my friend . It’s aLL just the big bad old USA,s fault right ?

[Tolsti]

Wow, he’s completely mad.

[Political Junkie Too]

I also think it gives Ron Paul supporters and DU way too much credit to say that they're behind this. This is much too organized for it to come from a Paul campaign, or DU.

On the brighter side, the Warriors are up 50-46 with 2:15 to go in the 2nd.

-PJ

[The Pack Knight]

What is your issue with Dr. Paul? You don’t like the fact that he wants to address WHY people are upset with us instead of just killing them all Bush style?

I never said anything about having an issue with Dr. Paul in that post. I said that he destroyed whatever chance he had of winning the nomination, because there are very few Republicans who will tolerate, much less approve, of Paul's point of view on this issue. I was simply stating how I believe this debate will effect his campaign.

That said, yes I do have an issue with Dr. Paul, and I don't like the fact that he wants to address why our enemies are upset with us rather than fighting them. If Ron Paul wants to play Neville Chamberlain with Islamists, then he can do so without my vote and without my support. I think I can safely say that most Republicans agree with me.

[jedward]

Hey there EV...