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Israel Didn't Lose In Lebanon; America Didn't Lose In Iraq (MSM Self-fulfilling Prophecy Alert)
Townhall.com ^ | 05/15/2007 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 05/14/2007 9:35:18 PM PDT by goldstategop

America has "lost" the war in Iraq primarily because most people believe it has. And most people believe it has because the news media have said so.

If this sounds bizarre, consider this: Why is it widely believed that Israel lost its 2006 war against Hezbollah in Lebanon? The answer is essentially the same -- people believe it because the media said so. In fact, there is no rational case for arguing that Israel lost its war against Hezbollah.

I have believed that Israel won, or at least that Hezbollah lost, since the end of the war in 2006. I was convinced of this by Michael Young, the opinion editor of the Lebanese newspaper the Daily Star. In an interview on my radio talk show, he made the compelling case that Hezbollah had lost.

I was reminded of this by a recent Thomas Friedman column. Echoing the Beirut editor, the New York Times foreign affairs columnist delineated six reasons why Hezbollah lost that war. In Friedman's words, they are:

1. "Mr. Nasrallah (the head of Hezbollah) demonstrated a total failure to anticipate Israel's response to his raid ... Some 1,200 Lebanese died because of this gross error in judgment."

2. "(Hezbollah) did grievous harm to Lebanon's fragile democracy and democratization in the Arab world. All the fears that if you let an Islamist party into government it will not respect the rules of the game were fulfilled by Hezbollah."

3. "By launching all these rockets prematurely, without strategic purpose, Hezbollah has diminished its capability and Syria's and Iran's."

4. "(Hezbollah) has lost its military infrastructure, and can't attack Israel now without getting embroiled with France and Italy (which have peacekeeping troops in southern Lebanon) -- a huge strategic loss for Hezbollah."

5. "Israel has embarked on a broad upgrade of its military (thanks to the lessons learned from its poor performance). In any future war Arab armies will meet a much better trained and equipped Israeli force."

6. "Israel's response to Hezbollah's attack has resulted in billions of dollars of damage to Lebanese homes, factories and roads, with Shiite areas the worst hit and with zero security benefit to Lebanon."

So why does just about everyone believe that Israel "lost" the war in Lebanon?

For two primary reasons:

First, the world defines victory of the stronger party -- in this case, Israel -- as either total victory or as a loss. Israel did not destroy Hezbollah, therefore it lost. Second, the world's news media said Israel lost; and the media now determine reality. Some 40 years ago, Marshall McLuhan made his prophetic statement, "The medium is the message." It is truer than ever. Man-made global warming is deemed the greatest threat to mankind's future because the media have announced it to be so. Anna Nicole Smith's death was significant because the media said it was. Genocide in Sudan is insignificant because the media don't much report on it. The Chinese decimation and annexation of Tibet is insignificant because the media have ignored it.

The Israeli army and defense establishment made grave errors, which have been the focus of a devastating Israeli government report. But those errors do not negate the fact that Hezbollah lost that war.

Likewise, America is said to have lost the war in Iraq. As with Israel, the stronger party -- America -- has not achieved total victory. Since no one has surrendered and there are still terrorists and insurgents, America is deemed to have lost. And the media -- and its ideological ally, the Democratic Party -- have been announcing the American defeat for years.

One lesson to be learned from these two wars is that victory as we have understood it in the past may not be possible when fighting terror organizations. There will be never be an equivalent to the Japanese surrender aboard the USS Missouri in 1945. There is no way to completely stop suicide terror against "soft" targets or to stop car bombs in public places. The only total victory over Islamic terrorists will have to come from within the Muslim world. There will have to be a theological and moral revulsion so great that no Muslim would dare risk hell and universal Islamic opprobrium by targeting innocents for murder. Unfortunately that day seems quite distant.

In effect, then, America will have lost in Iraq when America decides it has lost. And then it becomes what is known as a self-fulfilling prophecy.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: democraticparty; dennisprager; drivebymedia; handmaidensofdefeat; iraqwar; islamofascism; israelwar2006; msm; townhall
The MSM created perception of Israeli/American wartime losses is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Whatever the media says, people believe. Even if it is in contradiction to the real facts on the ground. Unlike in World War II, we will never again ecounter a situation of outright enemy surrender. We cannot hope to defeat Islamic extremism anymore than the Israelis can; that job will have to be up to the Muslims themselves and right now the prospects of moderates in the Muslim world standing up to the extremists in their midst looks like an event destined for a distant day.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 05/14/2007 9:35:20 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

The propoganda war against America from the left (And Others) goes on 24/7, 365, and hasn’t stopped. If anything, it has INTENSIFIED since it became clear that Democrats are willing to surrender our nation to it’s enemies for a few, short-term political gains.

Here is a posting from a Financial stock board, from just a couple of hours ago:

Numbers prove Bush’s surge has failed
(4 Positive Ratings)
14-May-07 10:49 pm
Insurgent death squads dumped 234 bodies around Baghdad in the first 11 days of May, a 41 percent increase from the 137 bodies dumped around the capital during the first 11 days of April. So, it’s OVER!

It doesn’t matter whether the propoganda is TRUE or not, it’s just repeated, over and over, everywhere you look, and it’s proves the Geobbell’s proverb....


2 posted on 05/14/2007 9:41:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: goldstategop

agree.

but appearances are reality,

and the american media has convinced both many republicans and most democraps that the war is lost. you see almost no “support our troops” bumper stickers in my locale. it’s over. people are tired.

and, afterall, bush does little to counter the media.

meanwhile, rumsfeld, franks, bremer et al made BIG mistakes.


3 posted on 05/14/2007 9:43:01 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: goldstategop

Syria still celebrates the 1973 war as a victory...they are just plain strange overthere.


4 posted on 05/14/2007 9:47:51 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: goldstategop

Syria still celebrates the 1973 war as a victory...they are just plain strange overthere.


5 posted on 05/14/2007 9:47:54 PM PDT by Starwolf
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To: goldstategop

Bump


6 posted on 05/14/2007 9:48:40 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: goldstategop; Brucifer

“Peace Keepers” is the only term and are the only “soldiers” the media will accept. Peace thru Victory is not acceptable to the left any longer. I see a major battle coming and I’m not talking about Iraq.


7 posted on 05/14/2007 9:58:39 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: goldstategop

bttt


8 posted on 05/14/2007 10:01:42 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (Dennis Miller said it best “Liberals always feel your pain. Unless of course, they caused it.”)
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To: goldstategop
One of the biggest MSM propaganda campaigns to undermine the Iraqi war and the administration is the Haliburton attacks.
9 posted on 05/14/2007 10:18:13 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: goldstategop

In politics as in economics perception is reality. And we are painmted as weak, not by our enemies but by those who would rather squander capital in keeping themselves in power. If an enemy perceives weakness he will pounce. It may not be the concrete reality however, as Hitler and the Japanese found to their demise last century. The question is, will we have the will to fight when we are cornered and have no other choice left?


10 posted on 05/14/2007 10:39:18 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SJackson

Ping


11 posted on 05/15/2007 4:48:23 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: goldstategop

I was reminded of this by a recent Thomas Friedman column. Echoing the Beirut editor, the New York Times foreign affairs columnist delineated six reasons why Hezbollah lost that war.

The Arab Commission

Written by By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Thursday, 10 May 2007

http://www.lebaneselobby.org/JSite/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=2

Hezbollah’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah, made a remarkable statement last week. He praised Israel for conducting an inquiry into last year’s war with Hezbollah — an inquiry that accused Prime Minister Ehud Olmert of “serious failure in exercising judgment, responsibility and prudence.”
Mr. Nasrallah was quoted by the BBC as saying Israelis “study their defeat in order to learn from it,” in contrast with the Arab regimes that “do not probe, do not ask, do not form inquiry commissions ... as if nothing has happened.”

One has to be impressed by his honesty, but he did not take it all the way, since the Arab leader who most needs to be probed is Mr. Nasrallah himself. He started the war with Israel, which was a disaster for both sides. If there were an honest Arab League Inquiry Commission into the war, here is what it would say about him:

On July 12, 2006, Hezbollah fighters directed by Mr. Nasrallah abducted two Israeli soldiers and killed eight others in an unprovoked attack across the Lebanon-Israel border, on the pretext of seeking a prisoner exchange. This triggered a war that killed about 1,200 Lebanese and 160 Israelis. After interviewing all relevant parties, the Arab League Commission finds Mr. Nasrallah guilty of a serious failure of judgment, responsibility and prudence — for the following reasons.

1. Mr. Nasrallah demonstrated a total failure to anticipate Israel’s response to his raid. He assumed Israel would carry out the same limited retaliation it had with previous raids. Wrong. He failed to take into account the changed circumstances in Israel. The kidnapping of an Israeli soldier in Gaza a few weeks earlier, plus the fact that a new chief of staff of the Israeli Army, a new prime minister and a new defense minister had just taken office and all felt they were being tested, triggered an enormous Israeli response. Some 1,200 Lebanese died because of this gross error in judgment.

2. In unilaterally launching a war against Israel, without a vote of the Lebanese cabinet — of which Hezbollah is a member — the militia did grievous harm to Lebanon’s fragile democracy and democratization in the Arab world. All the fears that if you let an Islamist party into government it will not respect the rules of the game were fulfilled by Hezbollah.

3. Iran and Syria gave Hezbollah its rockets for their own deterrence. Hezbollah was their long arm to pressure Israel into political compromises and to threaten Israel if it attacked Iran or Syria. By launching all these rockets prematurely, without strategic purpose, Hezbollah has diminished its capability and Syria’s and Iran’s. The commission can’t find a single strategic gain from Mr. Nasrallah’s actions.

4. When the war started, Hezbollah’s fighters were sitting right on the border with Israel, operating freely. This was a real threat to Israel. As a result of the war, Hezbollah was pushed off the border by Israel and, in its place, the U.N. inserted a new peacekeeping force of some 10,000 troops, including a big European contingent, led by France and Italy. Yes, Hezbollah still has fighters in the area, but it has lost its military infrastructure, and can’t attack Israel now without getting embroiled with France and Italy — a huge strategic loss for Hezbollah.

5. Israel had allowed its ground forces to be degraded in order to invest more money in its air force’s ability to deter Iran and into policing the West Bank. Hezbollah’s attack exposed just how degraded Israel’s army had become. As a result, Israel has embarked on a broad upgrade of its military. In any future war Arab armies will meet a much better trained and equipped Israeli force.

6. Hezbollah claims that its Shiite militia, in attacking Israel, was serving the security needs of Lebanon. But Israel’s response to Hezbollah’s attack has resulted in billions of dollars of damage to Lebanese homes, factories and roads, with Shiite areas the worst hit and with zero security benefit to Lebanon.

Lebanon has had to rely on Arab and Iranian charity to rebuild. Israel, by contrast, suffered relatively minor damage and, after the war, its economy enjoyed one of its greatest growth spurts ever, as foreigners invested a record amount in Israel’s high-tech industry.

In sum, Mr. Nasrallah may have won popularity for himself and Hezbollah by fighting Israel. But so what? Today, less than a year after a war that Hezbollah called a “divine” victory, Lebanon is weaker and Israel is stronger. That’s what matters. And that is why, if the Hezbollah leader had any honor, he would resign.


12 posted on 05/15/2007 4:54:29 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: goldstategop
There will be never be an equivalent to the Japanese surrender aboard the USS Missouri in 1945.

Reminds me of Speer's description of the German Government post VE-Day. They wanted to sign an instrument of surrender (Doenitz, Speer and other surviving Nazi officials were in a castle guarded by German troops and conducting their almost complete lack of day-to-day business.) They sent representatives to SHAPE (Eisenhower) who didn't know what to make of them. Eventually SHAPE sent a delegation, headed by a somewhat put upon Bridadier General to take them into custody, no surrender instruments, needed, thank you very much.

They were held in relative comfort awaiting the Nuremberg tribunal while much of Germany starved.

13 posted on 05/15/2007 5:05:06 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.")
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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The MSM aside, Israel committed serious errors in the planning and execution of the war, which have been highlighted by the Winograd commission and are in the process of correction. Our political process and the length of the war make introspection an in course changes more difficult

14 posted on 05/15/2007 5:33:41 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: Liberty Valance; SJackson; HardStarboard; goldstategop; Brucifer; Starwolf; Valin; FARS; ken21
"...I see a major battle coming and I’m not talking about Iraq..."

You are correct. While the USA cuts the legs off Iran and stops the funding from there (the destruction of Irans' Nuclear Stuff will be the start), Israel will finish-off Hizbollah this time, and may very well take Damascus.

The up-side to this scenario will be that it will finally smoke-out the Saudis. They won't be able to secretly fund terrorism in the region any longer. They'll probably try another oil embargo, but it will be pretty-damn-difficult to do with all the USA firepower sitting next door.

Should be interesting ................... FRegards

15 posted on 05/15/2007 6:54:23 AM PDT by gonzo (In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
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To: ken21
it’s over. people are tired.

You're right IMHO, but just think how stupid that is.

People are "tired"? Of a war that HASN'T AFFECTED 99% OF THEM?

Sheesh. For 99% of people, all they'd have to do is switch the TV channel and they wouldn't even know there's a "war" in the first place. So I'm rather sick and tired of hearing how "tired" they are.

16 posted on 05/15/2007 6:58:34 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; TXRed; juliej; Mr. Mojo; MeanWestTexan; Yaelle; Suzy Quzy; firebrand; ...

Ping!


17 posted on 05/15/2007 8:42:02 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: goldstategop

One lesson to be learned from these two wars is that victory as we have understood it in the past may not be possible’

That would be a wrong lesson learned.

If our leaders had the will or the strength of character the FDR had.. The heads of the Islamic States would one by one arrive in Washington and pay Obeisance. Those that did not would see their nation rubbled their people wandering around destitute..

In Short order the Islamic World would police itself.

Unconditional Surrender requires only the will to demand it.
Plus the willingness to wreck anyone or any country that refuses to surrender.

Our Leaders are weak and the enemy senses that.. When our leaders are strong the Islamofacists will plead for peace.

W


18 posted on 05/15/2007 8:55:06 PM PDT by WLR
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To: goldstategop

Why Hezbollah LOST the War in Lebanon!

http://samirkuntar.net/hezbollah1.html

On July 12, 2006 Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli soldiers that led to Israel’s war with them and, by extension, Lebanon itself. Hezbollah has been on Israel’s fence since the latter’s withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000. Israel always requested from the international community and from the Lebanese government to deploy its Lebanese Army there instead of Hezbollah’s terror troops. Hezbollah, quite naturally, refused! Hezbollah vowed to NEVER allow any other force other than itself to occupy southern Lebanon. Even during the conflict, Hezbollah said it would never agree to allow either the Lebanese army nor international monitors to patrol southern Lebanon.

Beirut On Fire

Then finally, when two IDF (Israeli Defense Force) soldiers were kidnapped, Israel found the perfect excuse it was looking for to go into Lebanon and push Hezbollah well away from the Lebanese-Israel border. Israel pursued a limited invasion and killed over 500-600 Hezbollah members during the one month war. Additionally, Israel took over every single village in southern Lebanon. Yet when the hostilities ended, Hezbollah claimed victory! But did it really win?

Firstly, Israel agreed to a cessation of hostilities NOT because it surrendered, but because of international pressure from the European Union and the United States. During this conflict Israel endured more international pressure, than it ever did in the past 10 years. Israel put forth conditions and international agreements which the latter two accepted, such as the deployment of 15,000 Lebanese soldiers and 15,000 United Nations peace keepers into southern Lebanon. This cessation of hostilities, known as “The August Ceasefire”, was initiated by the United Nations and International Community, and was put forward before both parties, Israel and Hezbollah, Hezbollah JUMPED right on the wagon to accept, because they saw it as the only way out of the mess they got themselves into. While at the same time, Israel was more stubborn on accept this ceasefire-agreement, since they were on a winning streak. Ever since then Hezbollah has not been seen or heard from in Southern Lebanon! at long last the frail Lebanese Government has finally had a degree of sovereignty over all of its state and is finally monitoring and guarding its own borders.

Not too long ago, nearly all television and print media images coming out of southern Lebanon were that of armed Hezbollah fighters with their guns, outposts, and banners. Not anymore! Hezbollah is now hiding under rocks in Southern Lebanon, its military might having received a substantial blow. In addition, Hezbollah is no longer enjoying the freedom and luxury of easily transferring Syrian/Iranian weaponry across the Lebanese-Syrian border or via the Beirut seaport. Much of this due to the combined efforts of a stronger Lebanese army and U.N. forces keeping a lid on such transferals.

But even though the International Troops and the Lebanese Army keep Hezbollah in check, isn’t there still Hezbollah presence in Southern Lebanon, EVEN THOUGH they are hiding “under rocks?” The same could be said for Al Qaeda presence in the United States, who are also hiding under rocks.

Hezbollah may portray themselves as fearsome “militants” but they are in fact cowards cowering behind Lebanese civilians. Yet, through mostly pin-point targeting, the IDF dealt a heavy blow to Hezbollah. Five to six hundred Hezbollah terrorists were killed and nearly all of their bases, headquarters and tactical infrastructure destroyed.

Some might say, “But didn’t Hezbollah manage to shoot over one hundred rockets into Israel every single day? AND why, during the war, didn’t the Israel army/air-force ever manage to stop the Katyusha fire?” Well the answer to that would be “What’s so impressive about groups of one or two rag heads pointing and setting off an unguided Katyusha southward into Israel?” In addition to the fact that Hezbollah only needed 1% of their military might in order to shoot Katyushas from their scattered fields and caves, into Israel every day.

Israel ‘BADLY’ miscalculated Hezbollah, those past 6 years since it withdrew from Lebanon. Why? Because in 2004, it was estimated that if Israel was to engage in war with Hezbollah, their Katyusha arsenal would result in 100 deaths per day on the Israeli side, but instead only 2 people per day were killed by those rockets. But during the war, Israel came to the realization that 99.9% of all those rocket attacks, mostly result in a lot of noise and broken windows. Prior to the war it was also estimated that if Israel launches a ground invasion, it would result in the deaths of over 70 soldiers per day, which would have left 2000 dead on the Israeli side at the end of the 34 day conflict. But only 120 soldiers were killed in total, which makes it 3-4 soldiers per day.

The reason 120 soldiers were killed in the first place, is because what would someone expect if an army deployed 30,000 soldiers squashed together in a small, tight, open space (South Lebanon)! It was amazing that after the war, those soldier didn’t all suffer from cluster phobia. But even though Israel deployed so many soldiers in the open, Hezbollah didn’t manage to deliver that harsh blow as was estimated before the ground invasion. But after all Hezbollah didn’t find as courageous as the Egyptians during the Suez Canal invasion, nor as the Syrians during the war in the Golan heights.

During and after the war, Hezbollah regretted starting the war in the first place, by kidnapped the two Israeli soldiers. But Israel on the other hand, didn’t regret going to war with Hezbollah, not even 1%. In fact Israel was ready to go for round two, but Hezbollah, will not dare even consider thinking about it.

During the fighting, many people (both inside and outside Lebanon) finally saw Hezbollah as they really are... a terrorist group. It’s strategy had little or no military value. The rockets they launched were intended to cause terror among Israel’s citizenry. They were not aimed at Israel military targets.

Israel never managed to destroy Hezbollah. As much as the IDF might have wanted to, the wiping out of Hezbollah was not Israel’s goal. Now could it ever be its goal. It is against the laws of physics to destroy a guerilla/terrorist group (America is learning it the hard way with Al Qaeda) since their operatives and members are always blending in and out of the civilian populations from which they so cowardly operate. In fact NEVER in history has a guerilla group ever been destroyed.

Additionally, rescuing the kidnapped IDF soldiers without a strong intelligence as to exactly where they were hidden, would have been a nearly impossible mission.. assuming they had not already been secreted out of Lebanon into Syria or Iran!

We constantly hear phrases such “Hezbollah emerged stronger,” “Hezbollah is now stronger than ever,” or “Hezbollah is now seen stronger than before!” There is some truth to that. Since before the Israeli withdrawal of 2000, Hezbollah was seen as more of a small arms, home made explosive, cut and run group, but during this conflict they were able to show off their Iranian made weapons. But they were no match for the Israeli army, whom they bowed down to at the end, by feeling too threatened to attack and provoke ever again.

When the United Nations wanted to impose a 48-hour ceasefire, it was Hezbollah which rushed to accept while Israel had to be pressured. Obviously this was because Israel had the military momentum in her favor. And when the month-long conflict ended, Hezbollah leader, Nasrallah, remained in an underground buffer, no longer enjoying frequent visits to central Beirut, giving daily “Hate Israel” speeches, driving down to his home town of southern Lebanon or enjoying first class flights to Damascus and Tehran. Nasrallah even admitted that had he known that even one percent of this war would have gone as it had, he would have NEVER kidnapped the soldiers and thus started the war!

In February 2007, there was a skirmish between Israeli troops and the Lebanese army on the Israel/Lebanon border, even though this skirmish that resulted in a shoot out and was unfortunate, the ray of light from all this, was that Israel was confronted and attacked by the Lebanese army and not by Hezbollah. This was one of the first signs that showed that the Lebanese army was doing its job. This was mostly due to the fact that Hezbollah lost its kingdom in Southern Lebanon, and is NOW in constant check by UNIFL, Lebanese Army, and International Troops. At least the Lebanese army was able to stand its ground and take control, unlike BEFORE the August 11 ceasefire! At least Israel finally got its wish, after 40 years, to FINALLY have the Lebanese army in control of the border. Since August 11, 2007 when the Lebanese army began its deployment in Southern Lebanon, not a single Katuysha, let alone a singe bullet was fired toward the Israeli side of the fence by Hezbollah. Unlike after the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon in May 2000, when Hezbollah would on average shoot Katyushas into Israel at least once every three months, but not anymore. No longer will the Israeli citizens of Northern Israel will ever live in fear once again!

People in the Lebanese Government now hate Hezbollah, for bringing destruction to Lebanon. All of Hezbollah’s southern Beirut strong posts were destroyed by Israel. Even after the cease fire, Israel stayed in Lebanon for two more months in order to destroy all remaining Hezbollah outposts and bunkers while Hezbollah stood by and did nothing. During the conflict some of the Israel/Lebanon border fence was destroyed and torn down, and Israel was in no rush to fix it, since what’s the point? Hezbollah will not want to mess with the IDF again! Even until today some of that fence has not been fixed yet, since the only threat of infiltration, now, is from drug dealers smuggling Hashish across that border.

But what about the Winograd Commission, “which is an independent Israeli government-appointed commission of inquiry, chaired by retired Israeli chief judge Eliyahu Winograd, which is set out to investigate and draw lessons from the failures experienced by Israel during the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict. Which resulted in a war panel, and even the resignation of high figures such as the Israeli chief of staff Dan Halutz.” The reason THIS is currently taking place in Israel, is it goes to show that Israel is a democratic country! If a “Lebanese-Winograd Commission” would be done to Hezbollah; for launching an illogical irresponsible attack on Israel, by kidnapping the two soldiers which led to the war and the destruction of Lebanon. And if a Lebanese Winograd Commission would be done to the Lebanese government; for not controlling its southern border by allowing thuggish armed militias (Hezbollah) to roam free there, allowing illegal weapon shipments via the Lebanese seaport, air port, and Syrian Lebanese border to those armed “non-governmental” militias, and allowing Syria and Iran to meddle in its politics, then Lebanon would crumble to dust! But after all, Lebanon is not a Democracy.

After the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000, Israel continued its ‘daily’ over flights over Lebanese territory. But before the August 2006 ceasefire, Israel was confronted by Hezbollah artillery rounds and shoulder fired missile at them during their over flights. But since the August ceasefire Israel up until today continues its daily over flights, and Hezbollah hasn’t dared shot at them once, since now, the UN peace keepers and Lebanese Army are now in control.

After the war, Hezbollah saw that it could no longer push around and bully Israel, and are therefore now trying to bully the “weak” Lebanese government by; their mass demonstration, camping out in front of the Lebanese Parliament, and political assassinations.

Israel did loose the war this summer, but not in Lebanon, but instead in Gaza. After Gilad Shalit was kidnapped, Israel began a massive military campaign in Gaza, destroying infrastructure, entering towns and cities, going after terrorists, and also trying to stop the Qassam rocket fire. But instead, all it achieved was nothing, in fact the Palestinians saw even more of a weakness in Israel. After the Israeli military campaign in Lebanon, deterrence was at least achieved, BUT unlike in Gaza, after the massive military campaign took place there (Gaza), the Israeli deterrence was lost for good. In-fact it led to an increase in rocket fire into Israel. In addition to the fact that as soon as Israel stopped its military campaign, Hamas and other groups said, “They are now even more determined than ever to kidnap another Israeli Soldier.” In April of 2007, they acted on their promise, under the cover of intense rocket fire on the Israel town of Sderot, Hamas terrorists again attempted to infiltrate Israel in order to abduct another soldier, but failed. At least they weren’t afraid to try!

After the war some Arab Governments claimed Hezbollah achieved a divine victory! But hey, lets not forget, that some of those Arab governments which claimed Hezbollah won that “divine victory,” are some of those “same” Arab governments who “STILL” until today claim that the Syria and Egypt won the 1967 War and the 1973 War!

Conclusion:

People from around the world, before the August cease-fire, would have never believed nor imagined that the Lebanese army would EVER be in control of its southern border. Nor, people would have never believed Lebanon would EVER be able to establish control over “illegal” arms shipments across its Lebanese/Syrian border, sea ports, and airports, and, well, it finally is!

Hezbollah will most likely never dare kidnap IDF soldiers because they saw the might and strength of the Israeli army, and they now feel threatened. Sure, some Hezbollah sympathizers may throw rocks, wave Hezbollah flags or scream “Allah Akbar” at the Lebanese-Israeli border fence but Hezbollah rank and file are laying low. Very low! And Hezbollah is no longer the imminent threat at that very same border.

Since the ‘moment’ the two soldiers were kidnapped and even during the war, Israel knew, they would not succeed in getting them back, in addition to the fact that destroying a guerilla group is against the laws of physics! Once people will get those two facts into their heads, then THEY will realize that, the outcomes that was achieved as a result of this conflict, were the best “REALISTIC” outcomes that Israel could have achieved.

By, Gabriel al-Amin
Beirut, Lebanon

Again, Israeli gloom is misplaced (First Post - 4/17/2007)

Lebanese army, UNIFIL are keeping Hezbollah in check (Haaretz - 2/21/2007)

Hezbollah’s ‘Victory’? (Washington Post 9/1/2006)

The Lebanese Winnograd Commission (Thomas Friedman, New York Times 5/10/2007)


19 posted on 05/31/2007 8:27:29 AM PDT by Jeffmichell (Why Hezbollah LOST the War in Lebanon!)
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