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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: af_vet_1981

Fred Thompson will get in. Be patient.


8,041 posted on 04/24/2007 6:23:54 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
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To: Spiff

gossip and innuendo. And if the files are sealed, you really don’t know.


8,042 posted on 04/24/2007 6:24:05 PM PDT by merry10
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To: Jim Robinson

That’s interesting. I agree. I can be friends with gay people, but not abortionists.


8,043 posted on 04/24/2007 6:24:41 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: processing please hold

You know that.

Wouldn’t be truly surprised if members from a certain other party were encouraging people to go after Rudy to split the party’s vote....


8,044 posted on 04/24/2007 6:24:58 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Yes, but saying that Rudy Giuliani is a cultural marxist is as ludicrous as calling him a cross dressing abortionist.


8,045 posted on 04/24/2007 6:25:40 PM PDT by merry10
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To: mkjessup
but if you look at Scripture, even Jesus cursed the fig tree for not bearing fruit.

ROFLMAO. You have taken butt-kissing to a new plane, my friend.

BTW, can you point me to the verse in the Bible where Jesus calls those who disagree with him "assholes?" Thanks.

8,046 posted on 04/24/2007 6:27:27 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I’ve said many times here that that would be a perfect plan for the dims. rudy would split the vote and hand the WH to a dim.


8,047 posted on 04/24/2007 6:27:43 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: michigander

“Gee, whenever I was told to ‘go get something for me to beat you with’ I always just tore the coner off a peice of paper and said wail away.”

When I was younger I hid under the bed.
When I was older I ran down the street.


8,048 posted on 04/24/2007 6:27:54 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; All
Well, the thread made it to over 8000 posts. Let's see if it goes over 9000. Meanwhile I'm outta for now.

See y'all later.
Go Ahead: Click It!

8,049 posted on 04/24/2007 6:28:03 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: CharlesWayneCT; jimrob; Dominic Harr

JR can do what he wants. I disagree with some of the bans, agree with others. But it ain’t my call to make.

I’m sure he has been sorely tempted to ban me for pictures of scantily clad females I’ve posted. Though if he bans me and keeps the idiots who keep posting Helen Thomas pics there will be hell to pay.


8,050 posted on 04/24/2007 6:28:09 PM PDT by pissant
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To: rbmillerjr
Althoug he only counts for a half a zot as he is clown.

That's not fair. After all, he left some pretty big shoes to fill.
8,051 posted on 04/24/2007 6:28:15 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: merry10

I pinged him thousands of posts ago...


8,052 posted on 04/24/2007 6:28:24 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kevmo

I think some Republicans want to retain the White House and are scared silly of the thought of the Clintons moving back in.

I’m not sure why it has to be more complicated in ascertaining their motives more than that unless they are discussing specific policy.

I might vote for Satan before I cast a vote which would increase the chance for Hillary to move back in. That’s just me.

Why we have to kill ourselves, get banned, and generally do some circular firing squad in Aptil of 2007 boggles my mind. But I haven’t really been here lately, so maybe I missed the compelling reason why this is urgent.


8,053 posted on 04/24/2007 6:29:32 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: merry10

Just checking to see if that is what you really meant?


8,054 posted on 04/24/2007 6:30:14 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

An amazing thread. It’s a lightning rod!

On News/Activism 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT · 8,051 replies · 165,025+ views

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson


8,055 posted on 04/24/2007 6:30:18 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Jim Robinson; Mom MD
My mother's most common expletive was "merciful heavens!" In critical moments, she WAS known to mutter "verdammte" under her breath. That, along with a cross expression on her face, was more than enough warning that SOMEBODY was in trouble :-)
8,056 posted on 04/24/2007 6:30:44 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: merry10

READ AND WEEP.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=culturalmarxism

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=gramsci

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=thirdway


8,057 posted on 04/24/2007 6:30:52 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team

I don’t think we can chase pro-choice people out of the party and still win elections. I also think that, if they can debate in a civilized way, it is helpful to have people around even if they would debate the cause of abortion. We can hone our skills.

I would expect that if abortion is a major cause for someone, they would not be welcome here. JR isn’t going to want multiple threads supporting abortion.

I think there’s a difference between being the “contrary voice” in the comments, and being a major agitator posting threads and vanities for a cause that the owner and most of us here would find repulsive;


8,058 posted on 04/24/2007 6:31:25 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team
After all, he left some pretty big shoes to fill.

ROFL...


8,059 posted on 04/24/2007 6:31:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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To: merry10; Politicalmom; All
“Do you know he has illegally kept the records sealed from when he was mayor? He broke state law by providing illegals with welfare. He used public money to pay 6 $100K+ a year bodyguards to drive his mistress to the beauty parlor.”
Gossip and innuendo.


Well here's something that isn't gossip and innuendo, when Rudy was mayor, NYC had a 3 billion dollar surplus in 1998, but when he left office, NYC was on the hook for 4.5 billion in DEBT, and it isn't all due to 9/11.

Rudy promised to slash the bloated NYC payroll, but when he left office, the number of city workers were higher than any other time in history, and Rudy actually hired 25,000 additional employees, many of them (if not most) patronage hires.

Rudy authorized, against the advice of his own fire department, the storage of 6000 gallons of fuel in WTC-7, located the city's emergency command center there, and on 9/11, that 13 million dollar facility, assisted with those 6000 gallons of fuel oil, ended up in the rest of the smoldering rubble.

How's that for recent stuff? Want to go back a bit further?

In 1982, then-Associate Attorney General Rudy Giuliani, testified during a hearing that sought the release of 2,100 Haitian refugees in federal detention camps, said that "repression in Haiti simply does not exist now" and that refugees had nothing to fear from the Government of Jean-Claude 'Baby-Doc' Duvalier. Giuliani based his remarks on his visit to Haiti where Duvalier "personally assured him" that Haitians returning home from the United States were not persecuted.

That's the same Baby Doc Duvalier that became infamous for the necklacing (putting burning tires around the neck) of political opponents, massive corruption throughout his regime and butchering people almost as efficiently as Rudy's pals in the abortion lobby 'NARAL'.

So to conclude, Rudy is not only a homosexual-friendly, gun-grabbing pro-abortionist who sees nothing wrong with murdering unborn children, he spends money like a drunken sailor, put New York City into billions of debt, and in his own small way, contribued to the destruction of WTC-7 on 9/11 with his foolish decision to store FUEL oil in the building.

And people want this rube as President of the United States?

Only if we have a collective national death wish!
8,060 posted on 04/24/2007 6:32:04 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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