Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


TOPICS: Extended News; Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Arizona; US: New York; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008election; abortion; alaska; aliens; arizona; banglist; bernardkerik; bugzapper; bugzapperinventor; bugzapperthread; byebyerinos; bzzzt; classicthread; damties; dragqueens4rudy; election2008; elections; fr; freedom; freepercide; freepersturnedtroll; freepicide; giuliani; globalwarming; gojimgo; greatzot; gungrabber; herekitty; hizzoner; homosexualagenda; howlermonkeys; howlermonkeyzot; howlinzot; hsw; immaturity; johnmccain; jrrocks; julieannie; julieanniebotsmad; lemmings; liberty; lookatmenow; massresignation; newt; newyork; newyorkcity; no; nonopus; nopiapspleez; onepercentersgone; onepercentersrule; opus; opuscentral; peachcompost; piapers; pridegoethb4; prolife; propertyrights; propiaps; rabidfringeshame; realmenofgenius; rino; rinorudy; rinos; rossperot; rudolphgiuliani; rudy; rudygiuliani; rudyhasalisp; rudyinadress; rudymcromney; rudytherino; ruhroh; runfredrun; sarahpalin; savagegotitrite; selfimmolation; senatorjohnmccain; senatormccain; socialism; socialist; springcleaning; springhousecleaning; stoprudy; stoprudy2008; suicidebymod; supo; sweepuptime; takingoutthetrash; thanksjim; themanwhosavednyc; thtoprudy; travesty; undeadthread; vikingkitties; weneedfred; wideawake; wideawakes; zap; zapper; zot; zotbelt
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 7,781-7,8007,801-7,8207,821-7,840 ... 18,461-18,471 next last
To: Kevmo

“From the wayback machine, Jan 1999.

What is our mission? Free Republic is dedicated to reversing the trend of unconstitutional government expansion and is advocating a complete restoration of our constitutional republic. Listed below are some of the issues we feel strongly about.

Basically, we believe that the Founders designed our system of government in the form of a constitutionally limited republic, with maximum freedom intended for the people and minimum government control or interference into our personal lives and business affairs.

The united states of America was intended to be a federation of sovereign states, each with its own constitution and state government. Governments at all levels — federal, state and local — were to be controlled by the people. Our Constitution explicitly restricts the power of our federal government; and our Bill of Rights guarantees that NO government may infringe upon our God given unalienable rights. This is to ensure that the real power remains close to home, with the states, the local governments and always in the hands of the people.

We the People have granted our federal government limited powers to oversee certain things, such as national defense, interstate commerce, the postal service, the coining of money, and the operation of a court system. Most other powers now in the hands of the federal government were illegally usurped from the states and from the people.

Somehow, over the years, our guiding principles of law, as set forth in the Constitution, have been eroded to the point that the federal government now has total control — leaving the states impotent and the people as captive servants to the federal government. This must be reversed if we are to survive as a free Republic and a free people.

We at Free Republic are determined to return the Constitution to its rightful place as the Supreme Law of the land as the Founders intended.

It is not necessary for everyone to hold the same views to be members of Free Republic, however, many of us do share many of the following as common beliefs and goals:

The preservation and complete restoration of our Constitution and Bill of Rights with special emphasis on the first, second, fourth, fifth, sixth, ninth and tenth amendments and, of course, our right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness — free of government intervention.

We call for the repeal of the 17th amendment, which will reverse the independence of the Senate and reestablish the Senate as a representative of the State governments, as intended by the Founding Fathers. This arrangement was intended to be a critical check against illegal federal expansion over the States, and the people residing in the various States, and will act to return the powers not granted to the federal government, as enumerated in the Constitution, to the states.

We call for the repeal of the 16th amendment and to abolish the income tax and the IRS. Revenues to the federal government should come from excise taxes and tariffs.

We call for the repeal of the Emergency and War Powers Acts, an end to all national emergencies and a ban on the unilateral creation of law by Presidential edict. We are also working for the repeal all laws created by unconstitutional and extraconstitutional devices, such as Executive Order or Presidential Directive.
Repeal of the war and emergency powers acts and the various states of national emergencies will allow the abolishing of all unconstitutional federal law, agencies and departments. This will return us to a Federalist system of government and return many responsibilities to the States and personal rights to the citizens.

A return to a strictly Constitutional form of federal government will automatically repeal and abolish all unconstitutional federal involvement in states issues such as: crime, health, education, welfare and the environment. The Tenth Amendment will again be in effect, which will bar all federal attempts at legislating social issues. This will also require that social programs such as Social Security, welfare and Medicare be repealed. So too, will most federal subsidies.

We further call for the rescinding of all treaties and/or International Agreements which are not in perfect agreement with the federal government?s Constitutionally mandated task of protecting the rights of the people.

We believe that the United States should disassociate itself from the U.N. and that the U.N. should be forced to leave the United States. Furthermore, we demand that the federal government refrain from meddling in the business and squabbles of foreign nations, unless there is an imminent threat to the people of the United States.

We also call for the strengthening of our military and defenses; the effective control over illegal immigration and smuggling; the paying down the national debt; and strict control over federal agencies like the CIA and the FBI.

NOTE: Free Republic does NOT condone bigotry or violence and does NOT advocate an overthrow of the government.”

Er, notice that there is no mention of abortion in this statement.

Isn’t that odd?


7,801 posted on 04/24/2007 4:35:45 PM PDT by Sam Hill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7680 | View Replies]

To: Sam Hill

As I said. If it becomes perfectly normal to elect drug felons, etc, etc, etc. Thank God it’s not.


7,802 posted on 04/24/2007 4:36:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7700 | View Replies]

To: Brad's Gramma
LOL. If you say so.....
I won't argue about it......
LOL
7,803 posted on 04/24/2007 4:37:20 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7786 | View Replies]

To: BykrBayb
I wonder if they like it as much as they said they would.

Well, if they don't, they can always quit eating and drinking until the "euphoria" kicks in.

7,804 posted on 04/24/2007 4:38:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7797 | View Replies]

To: Sam Hill
Er, notice that there is no mention of abortion in this statement.

Actually, there is:

our Bill of Rights guarantees that NO government may infringe upon our God given unalienable rights.

The right to life is the foremost God-given, unalienable right.

7,805 posted on 04/24/2007 4:38:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7801 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson

“At that time, JimRob vowed he would lead an armed revolution if George W Bush was elected President.”

That’s a flat out lie and deliberate misrepresentation of my stated position.

+++++

Well, I posted the full quote and the link where you go on to explain it — and where you further state your opposition to a Bush Presidency.

I don’t see how I could be any less mis-representational. Everyone can read what you wrote for themselves.


7,806 posted on 04/24/2007 4:38:52 PM PDT by Sam Hill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7795 | View Replies]

To: Eric Blair 2084

I’ve never seen the show.


7,807 posted on 04/24/2007 4:39:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7788 | View Replies]

To: Sam Hill
Ann Coulter

Ahem, there are rules about mentioning the divine Miss Ann.

7,808 posted on 04/24/2007 4:40:17 PM PDT by colorado tanker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7749 | View Replies]

To: Delphinium

LOL. Have you ever been to New St. Andrews U.? It’s an ultra conservative Calvinist school where they have hymnal singing and story time (not kidding) on Friday night!!


7,809 posted on 04/24/2007 4:40:58 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7677 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

They should do that regardless. We know they’ll love it. They said so.


7,810 posted on 04/24/2007 4:41:12 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7804 | View Replies]

To: dukakis kerry the dream team
I misinterpreted that statement.

Please accept my apology.

Accepted.

I will ask for the same courtesy for a similar misinterpretation. :-)

7,811 posted on 04/24/2007 4:41:13 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7778 | View Replies]

To: Dr.Zoidberg
And we should give a d@mn what they think ... WHY?

I'm not losing sleep over it. I just hate to see them get any satisfaction or enjoyment. Call it schadenfreude. But your premise is correct.

Mature, self confident people don't care what idiots think. It's the same advice I would give to the Rutgers lady B'ball players. They're still 18-22 yo and haven't learned that lesson yet, they're still developing their self image. Don't let some assclown washed up geezer radio host "scar you for life" as one student put it.

But in all seriousness, although I don't really care, the wishy washy undecided voters are looking at this. Don't think that a 7,000 post meltdown like this on the largest conservative forum goes without notice. But it is better to have this heated discussion now as opposed to October 2008.

7,812 posted on 04/24/2007 4:41:16 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7783 | View Replies]

To: dynachrome

There are others who have admitted that they are pro-abortion, for the most part they have either been banned or, in one case, have threatened to quit.


7,813 posted on 04/24/2007 4:41:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7781 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson

By the way, when did abortion become so central to your politics. I don’t recall you mentioning it much before.

And as I noted above, your “mission statement” for FR from 1999 doesn’t even mention it.

In fact, an objective reader could even get the impression that you would oppose laws outlawing abortion since that would entail the government from “interfering.”


7,814 posted on 04/24/2007 4:41:41 PM PDT by Sam Hill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7795 | View Replies]

To: mkjessup

I am not sorry to see someone go who can honestly say the staggering number of abortions preformed daily in this country does not bother them. Talk about having no conscience.


7,815 posted on 04/24/2007 4:42:07 PM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7755 | View Replies]

To: Sam Hill
"Er, notice that there is no mention of abortion in this statement."

Right! And what's this asswipe, chopped liver?

"and, of course, our right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness — free of government intervention."

7,816 posted on 04/24/2007 4:42:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7801 | View Replies]

To: Fiddlstix
I won't argue about it......

Wow! THAT was easy! Like putty. In my hands. WHOO HOOOOO!!

7,817 posted on 04/24/2007 4:42:48 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7803 | View Replies]

To: stillonaroll
Well, I'm certainly not in that group. I've made clear my pro-life position involves first and foremost those who already are walking on the planet. Then I worry about the unborn, because without the former, there won't BE any latter.

Until quite recently I was a member of the NRA (just didn't want to spend more money on dues). I still practice regularly with my weapon.

I worked my tail off for Ken Blackwell, but people need to realize, the most conservative candidates in the U.S. all got defeated last time out, across the board (well, maybe not in Texas or the deep South, but everywhere else). Blackwell was the MOST conservative single candidate anywhere in the U.S., and he got crushed.

7,818 posted on 04/24/2007 4:43:29 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7480 | View Replies]

To: All

I smell burning rope....sniff sniff... in the air
Maybe it’s just me.


7,819 posted on 04/24/2007 4:43:45 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7816 | View Replies]

To: Sam Hill

“Interfering” is Roe vs Wade.


7,820 posted on 04/24/2007 4:43:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7814 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 7,781-7,8007,801-7,8207,821-7,840 ... 18,461-18,471 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson