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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Reagan Man
We conservatives don't eat liberals, we just expose their leftwing lunacy.

LOL IMHO, I think that many of those who have thrown their support behind Giuliani did so because they are as concerned as I am about the WOT and what will happen to us all if a Democrat wins the presidential election. I can understand how they feel but I'm on record as saying that we should strive to find a Republican candidate that is strong on the WOT, and also social issues. I would rather a candidate that embraces more conservative values than less. However, I also believe that the best way to convince someone that there might be a better candidate is to talk to them and have respectful debates on the candidates and where they stand on the issues. How can we convince someone who supports Giuliani this early in the game that they might want to consider someone else if we get into nothing but shouting matches and/or ban their voice completely?

I wish everyone would come together and realize that we all NEED each other in order to keep the Dems from destroying this great county. Some may have to give a little, some may have to give a lot. I don't know. I just know that anyone who claims to be a Republican should want to find the BEST candidate, and IMHO, that candidate is NOT Giuliani.

6,201 posted on 04/23/2007 8:40:50 PM PDT by Chena (I want a President who will also be tough against liberalism. HONK!!!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Why don’t you just go back to your precious board and continue to mock FReepers there?


6,202 posted on 04/23/2007 8:41:04 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: flashbunny
This may have been the shortest time between storm off and return in history.

She forgot her false teeth.

6,203 posted on 04/23/2007 8:42:07 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: processing please hold

JR??? The Dallas guy? Larry Hagman? Was he a cross dresser too?


6,204 posted on 04/23/2007 8:42:26 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (www.washingtonspeakers.com/speakers/PlayVideo.cfm?speakerid=3996&contentid=484&type=asx&res=high)
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To: Reagan Man

Amen


6,205 posted on 04/23/2007 8:42:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: feinswinesuksass
I learned a lot in those early years.....As the site grew in members, it declined in quality.

Yes. Now the libs have taken over claiming conservativism and the conservatives left. That's what happened.
6,206 posted on 04/23/2007 8:42:41 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Delphinium

I didn’t articulate it well but I’m glad you got the point/jist of my post. I haven’t read all the posts on this topic but your post/reply to a post caught my eye so I replied :)


6,207 posted on 04/23/2007 8:42:55 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Jim Robinson
You are absolutely correct. If the GOP nominates an abortionist (.... add 10 page laundry list of Rudy's short comings here ...) the GOP will destroy itself along with demolishing the conservative movement. Congratulations for stumbling onto the obvious truth (obvious to conservatives anyway).

I didn't "stumble onto the obvious truth". It jumped up and bit me in the face a long time ago. I'm willing to listen to everyone's views, speak of my own, and I will do my best to not toss the baby out with the bath water, so to speak. Turning other Republicans away as if they aren't "worthy", is not helpful, IMO.

6,208 posted on 04/23/2007 8:43:19 PM PDT by Chena (I want a President who will also be tough against liberalism. HONK!!!)
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To: Chena

I hope he does too...


6,209 posted on 04/23/2007 8:43:23 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: Delphinium
This is alot more civil then when certain freepers are here.

Really? I don't remember reading any thread where the phrases like "Bring it on you stupid b*@3h" were tolerated. I don't remember any thread where other FReepers were actively cheering for dozens long-time FReepers to get banned. I don't remember any other thread that has descended into nothing but a series of needless personal attacks in an attempt to bait those FReepers others don't agree with into getting banned or suspended.

As others have said, some of the responses to this thread have been an absolute disgrace.
6,211 posted on 04/23/2007 8:43:45 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: rattrap

lol

And beyond.


6,212 posted on 04/23/2007 8:44:34 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: Reagan Man

Well good. I hope you can support Jim in the manner to which he’s become accustom due to the generosity of all us “liberals” over the years. How dare you.


6,213 posted on 04/23/2007 8:45:33 PM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: wolf24

Never have I said I was a lady. I’m a woman. Too many prim rules in being a lady.


6,214 posted on 04/23/2007 8:45:37 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Petronski
This thread is epic.

Yes, it is!

6,215 posted on 04/23/2007 8:46:30 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: Syncro; Bigh4u2; Hildy

I didn’t slither away. I’m just tired about all the vile garbage I’ve seen posted on Free Republic lately. That’s what I was hoping would blow over.

As for your stalking, you pop out of nowhere and harass people. I’m not the first and I won’t be the last.

Now, buzz off.


6,216 posted on 04/23/2007 8:46:34 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: stephenjohnbanker

He sure isn’t the diamond some folks think he is. You’re swear they’d change his name to Jewel-iani, if they could. ;)


6,217 posted on 04/23/2007 8:46:45 PM PDT by Chena (I want a President who will also be tough against liberalism. HONK!!!)
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To: processing please hold
If they can dictate what is posted on a conservative site our freedom of speech is being threatened.

Anyone can go to the cops anytime they like and report whatever they want. It happens all the time. I'm good friends with the sheriff in my town, and the other day when I was sitting in his office I listened to his side of a 30-minute conversation with a woman who called to report that her neighbor was using voodoo on her.

Forgive me if I doubt the FBI is going to beat down your door and cuff you.

I'm curious as to why you felt it was necessary to ping someone else in your response to me.

6,218 posted on 04/23/2007 8:46:53 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: flashbunny; Hildy; All
I'll assume this surprises nobody.
6,219 posted on 04/23/2007 8:47:04 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Chena

“Turning other Republicans away as if they aren’t “worthy”, is not helpful, IMO”

Think of them as conservatives instead of Republicans. Then their self-imposed banishment makes perfect sense.


6,220 posted on 04/23/2007 8:47:17 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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