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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Dstorm; mkjessup

Also central scrutinizer and Luis Gonzales. I think both were from this thread.


3,681 posted on 04/22/2007 7:55:16 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: don-o
Don it is turning into, The Crucible on this thread.
3,682 posted on 04/22/2007 7:56:37 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Fiddlstix
Registered is one of the original FReepers and a true FR treasure. Please tell me when he "went off the deep end" as I've seen no evidence of that.

Didn't you get the memo? Anyone who doesn't support Duncan Hunter, Alan Keyes, or Pat Bauer is now considered a "liberal."

3,683 posted on 04/22/2007 7:56:39 PM PDT by cicero's_son (Vote Rudy! Annoy a wingnut.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"As for fiscal vs social conservatives, I wouldn’t consider a person conservative unless he was both."

Very much agreed. I've said the same thing many times even more than one on this board.

3,684 posted on 04/22/2007 7:57:09 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag!)
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To: Spiff

He wants that special Minority Status and the adoption of the 14th Commandment...Speak No Ill of the Rudy.


3,685 posted on 04/22/2007 7:57:11 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: Mrs.Liberty

bookmark/ping for Monday cubicle continued reading


3,686 posted on 04/22/2007 7:57:11 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Salvation
I hesitated to do a Catholic Ping, but there are several anti-Catholic posts on the later parts of this thread.,p. Catholic Discussion Ping!

Might as well have a religious war on this thread too.

EVERYTHING on this thread is anti-something. Anti-Catholic is just a tiny part of an almost total melt-down.

This is the most depressing, negative, and destructive thread I have ever seen on FR.

3,687 posted on 04/22/2007 7:57:25 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: SittinYonder; stuned_beeber
Screw that noise pal. Freeper 'stunned_beeber' signed up just last week and has more on the ball than a LOT of posters who have been here much longer. Don't even try playing that game with me.
are you sure?


Based on what I've seen so far from the beeber, yes.

Why do you ask?
3,688 posted on 04/22/2007 7:57:34 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Reagan Man
LOL Registered and 68grunt team up ----- the liberal Nancy Boys of Free Republic.

That response was expected. My conservative credentials, here, and in the real world are solid. I dare say we will never know more about you than your trolling and factioning off of long time Freepers here.
3,689 posted on 04/22/2007 7:57:46 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: trussell

Yep. Should I use all my bullets, I can fall back on my .12 behind my nightstand leaning against the headboard. Well protected. lolol


3,690 posted on 04/22/2007 7:57:50 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: flashbunny

What happened to LG? I thought I read the whole thread.


3,691 posted on 04/22/2007 7:58:21 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: processing please hold

.12ga.....duh!


3,692 posted on 04/22/2007 7:58:34 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: ChuckHam

Marked


3,693 posted on 04/22/2007 7:58:36 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: Jim Robinson
What is sad is that the Rudy Amen corner will soon be calling you a “one issue voter” and “fanatic” for not embracing the anointed one, Rudy, for president.

We are in some interesting times.

3,694 posted on 04/22/2007 7:58:42 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SittinYonder

Of the fallen rudy’s, she’s the only one I really will miss. She was great on transcribing live speeches too.

But she got really mean all of the sudden for some reason. A lot of the women did, it was uncharacteristic. I suspect Rudy has some magic potion or spell, which would also explain why he keeps getting pretty good women to sleep with him.


3,695 posted on 04/22/2007 7:58:53 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: EternalVigilance

Lou Reed? It sort of has his rhythm...


3,696 posted on 04/22/2007 7:59:36 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: processing please hold

I just have my .44 special and my 9mm right now. My .45 is in the shop being serviced...as is the .25 which has a chipped grip and a magazine that sticks.


3,697 posted on 04/22/2007 8:00:22 PM PDT by trussell
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To: cicero's_son
Registered is one of the original FReepers and a true FR treasure. Please tell me when he "went off the deep end" as I've seen no evidence of that.
Didn't you get the memo? Anyone who doesn't support Duncan Hunter, Alan Keyes, or Pat Bauer is now considered a "liberal."


C'mon now son, you shouldn't be telling tall tales like that.
3,698 posted on 04/22/2007 8:00:35 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Registered

Hi registered, been a long time. Didn’t get to CPAC this year but last year I got an invite to visit Tony Snow at Fox Studio’s in DC.


3,699 posted on 04/22/2007 8:00:38 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“I really got my mind shaped these past two days, as I’ve been arguing to keep these people on forum, while they have gotten increasingly belligerant. I posted, no I BEGGED every one of them to tell me one thing Rudy did to be strong on the war on terror, to be strong on national security. When Peach said that if we didn’t vote for Rudy we’d have Wal Marts and Truck Bombs, I asked her what Rudy’s position was on WalMart.

I posted WHY I thought Rudy was bad for our party, and bad for the country, without calling him names, and without calling his supporters names. I took GRIEF for complaining about other people’s name-calling. But many of the rudy supporters returned not answers about their candidate, or reasoned arguments refuting my opinions, but personal invective, snide statements, and “facts” that proved the opposite of what they said was the truth.”

You have been stellar in the fairness department.
We were rapidly coming under attack. I am all for the purge.....and there are about 6 left to be ZOTTED!


3,700 posted on 04/22/2007 8:00:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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