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Va. Tech Gunman Named [Murderer Identified]
The Washington Post ^

Posted on 04/17/2007 6:39:31 AM PDT by starlifter

Va. Tech Gunman Named

By Michael Shear and Debbi Wilgoren Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, April 17, 2007; 9:36 AM

Virginia Tech officials today identified the Virginia Tech student who killed 32 people and then himself on the Blacksburg campus yesterday as 23-year-old Cho Seung-Hui of Centreville.

Cho was a South Korean native who had immigrated to this country, the university announced on its Web site this morning. He was a senior majoring in English, and lived in a dorm on campus, officials said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: vatech; vtech; vtmuders
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To: Law is not justice but process
I agree with you. It is disgusting. It’s blame anyone you do not like. Just blame, blame, blame. Didn’t Geraldo also blame the wrong person? Where did this Chinese stuff come from? Was there such a student?
201 posted on 04/17/2007 8:15:27 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Strategerist
There's a squad of sleeper North Korean Commando English majors sworn to kill American engineering students?

Oh, great. You've just revealed 24's plot for next year. Thanks a lot ... ;-)

202 posted on 04/17/2007 8:16:30 AM PDT by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I guess that degree of packratism is just foreign to me.
___________

LOL. I wish I could say the same.


203 posted on 04/17/2007 8:17:12 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Lazamataz

With Asian names, the family name often comes first, then the individual’s name.

IIRC, the Koreans follow this tradition, so it is entirely possible that the gun shop owner was *correct*.


204 posted on 04/17/2007 8:20:08 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: itsamelman

Where was Jim Webb when we needed him ???


205 posted on 04/17/2007 8:20:54 AM PDT by 11th_VA (VRWC Local 774)
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To: fatnotlazy

I like Lou Dobbs because he is usually interesting. But in this I totally disagree with him.


206 posted on 04/17/2007 8:22:33 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Jack Black

What are you talking about??


207 posted on 04/17/2007 8:22:42 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: apocalypto
I wonder why/how he went from ROK to PRC in order to come here.

Anyone know? That sounds rather a complicated circuitous route to get here....

208 posted on 04/17/2007 8:23:36 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: 11th_VA

I did, however, love Webb’s book “Born Fighting”. I wish some of those young men had used some of that ornrey Scots-Irish blood!


209 posted on 04/17/2007 8:23:44 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: Lazamataz
He correctly identified the kid's name as 'Cho' (alibet transposing the first and last names -- easy with such a foreign nomenclature) well before this morning.

Cho IS the Korean guy's last name (he didn't mix up the order). Once I saw that, I knew the shooter couldn't have been Chinese. Cho is a bonafide Korean last name.
210 posted on 04/17/2007 8:25:15 AM PDT by ribosomal soup
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To: IrishRainy

While I do not blame video games for this guy’s actions, video games *do* allow someone to practice his marksmanship skills - we’re talking about the big standup units where you actually hold a pistol simulator and shoot at targets on the large screen in front of you. The Army has taken note of this and is starting to try the tech out more seriously.


211 posted on 04/17/2007 8:25:26 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TrishaSC

“You have made the best point I’ve heard. Prayers for the victim and I’m not blaming them but where has bravery gone? Why did they just stand there like sheep?”

Thank you. I’m not sure they did ‘just stand there like sheep’ btw.

Lots of rumors swirled for a week after Columbine, before we learned the truth, that it was a well planned ‘domestic terror attack’ not just a ‘school shooting’.

Lets see if the shooter left a suicide note, if not before the first two killings, sometime during the two hours afterwards.

He was doing ‘something’ for 120 minutes...what was it?


212 posted on 04/17/2007 8:25:29 AM PDT by Badeye (Think the GOP will listen to the 'base' in 08?)
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To: Gopher Broke

Ya think?


213 posted on 04/17/2007 8:27:55 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: eleni121
I wonder why/how he went from ROK to PRC in order to come here.

He didn't - seemingly here since age 8. The whole PRC thing was apparently bogus.

214 posted on 04/17/2007 8:28:22 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
He was highly trained.

I'll join in the wild speculation. These kills were all at short or point blank range. He was not under fire. An hour at a gun range and hours of Counter Strike would be sufficient training.
215 posted on 04/17/2007 8:28:47 AM PDT by BJClinton (Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: Do not use semicolons.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I have to disagree here. It is not that hard to achieve decent marksmanship with a pistol at short ranges, and we know the lunatic didn’t successfully make shots that were over about 50 feet (from reports that he took shots at a janitor and other people that were down a hall - and missed, badly). Most of his kills were probably within a 25 foot radius.


216 posted on 04/17/2007 8:28:51 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: pa mom

As hard as it may seem, there are some things that just can’t be prevented except by luck or a hunch. There isn’t going to be a satisfactory answer for something like this, and that’s why people hope it was something concrete, like terrorism. People generally can’t accept the fact that evil wins its share of battles, regardless of what we do.

This will be politicized without a doubt. It’s an impossibility to identify and tranquilize every lunatic out there. We can’t read their minds, and even if we can predict some of their actions, we still have a Bill of Rights which prevents us from arresting “potential” criminals. The supreme tragedy is that, in the end, there’s probably no answer to “why”. Instead of blaming people, we, as a country, should rally around the families of those who died and are wounded. There’s no silver lining to something like this.


217 posted on 04/17/2007 8:29:14 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: pa mom
Actually in this case, if some students or faculty had carried guns, lives would have been saved. Gun control would lead to more, not less killings of innocent people.

Since immigrants and illegal aliens have such high rates of homicide and gang membership (in my area Asian and Hispanic gangs are running amok), cutting down on both would save American lives.

We can only reduce the rates of homicide, but there is no way to eliminate it.

218 posted on 04/17/2007 8:29:45 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: pa mom
“He was a loner, and we’re having difficulty finding information about him,” school spokesman Larry Hincker said.

This is presumably the same Larry Hincker who expressed his satisfaction a year ago when concealed carry was disallowed on the campus:

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn’t get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill’s defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. “I’m sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly’s actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”

Link

219 posted on 04/17/2007 8:31:00 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: apocalypto; Brujo; Strategerist; FarRightFanatic
Maybe the girlfriend he was looking for was a science/engineering major and the first woman who was killed in the dorm was her roommate?

Typical journalistic rush to a scoop without double checking!

A South Korean English major??? Nah, it doesn't pass the smell test.

A South Korean English major on a killing rampage in an engineering building??? You've got to be kidding.

My guess is that some low level clerk checking the University's records saw the student's college listed as ENG (abbreviation for ENGineering) and assumed it stood for ENGlish. They probably passed that mistake on to a university administrator/spokesman and then on to a reporter.

It'll be days before the MSM gets it straightened out, and by then the public will be too bamboozled to every get it right.

220 posted on 04/17/2007 8:31:51 AM PDT by delacoert
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