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Va. Tech Gunman Named [Murderer Identified]
The Washington Post ^

Posted on 04/17/2007 6:39:31 AM PDT by starlifter

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To: Orlando

That sucker was probably pulled immediately.

We had a kid here who committed suicide and they got his down right away.


421 posted on 04/18/2007 10:46:59 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: pa mom

“pulled immediately”

I think you are right.


422 posted on 04/18/2007 10:56:17 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: Orlando

I think it becomes evidence the minute something happens.


423 posted on 04/18/2007 10:58:05 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: pa mom

thanks


424 posted on 04/18/2007 11:01:47 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: TampaDude

I agree with you about his potentially being molested.

NYPost has some interesting info on how he interacted with people:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04182007/news/nationalnews/stalker_who_turned_killer_nationalnews_andrea_peyser__leela_de_kretser__and_david_k__li.htm

Other articles worth reading:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-shooter18apr18,0,2210161.story?coll=la-home-headlines
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266683,00.html


425 posted on 04/18/2007 12:11:31 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

He may not be an Islamic radical per se, but I think he exhibits the same personality profile - he thinks he’s going to “show us”.


426 posted on 04/18/2007 5:26:40 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.

a whole bunch of people, often kids, have done this over the years.

I think it might get classified as a “narcissistic personality disorder”

A study was done that found these common denominators:

“Students who engaged in school-based attacks typically did not ‘just snap’ and then engage in impulsive or random acts of targeted school violence,” the Secret Service researchers wrote. “Instead, the attacks examined under the Safe School Initiative appeared to be the end result of a comprehensible process of thinking and behavior: behavior that typically began with an idea, progressed to the development of a plan, moved on to securing the means to carry out the plan and culminated in an attack. This is a process that potentially may be knowable or discernible from the attacker’s behaviors and communications.”

Other key findings of the Secret Service study:

* Prior to most incidents, other people knew about the attacker’s idea and/or plan to attack.
* There is no accurate or useful “profile” of students who engaged in targeted school violence.
* Most attackers had difficulty coping with significant losses or personal failures. Moreover, many had considered or attempted suicide.
* Many attackers felt bullied, persecuted or injured by others prior to the attack.
* Most attackers had access to and had used weapons prior to the attack.
* In many cases, other students were involved in some capacity.
* Despite prompt law enforcement responses, most shooting incidents were stopped by means other than law enforcement intervention. The end came through suicide in about one-eighth of the shootings.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18175525/page/2/

I suspect it’s also related to cases like the man who went into a San Diego McDonalds a number of years ago and shot and killed many people before dying.

And a guy named Mark Essex in New Orleans many years ago.

Sometimes they use politics as a rationality, but mostly they are miserable, angry people who don’t realize that a lot of the misery happens because of how they relate to others. Thus the hyperfocus on self.

I told someone today this is the ultimate emo trip. Some truth to that snidity.


427 posted on 04/18/2007 6:26:32 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

First of all, thanks for putting together all the information you’ve provided.

I heard on the radio today something that struck a chord of truth. There’s something of megalomania in many of these cases - the ego-focus you speak of. This observation later turned out to be prophetic when info he sent to NBC became public.


428 posted on 04/18/2007 7:59:26 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Your post was great. Dennis Prager today pointed out that criminal often have extremely high self esteem. Your post bears that out.

They feel that their pain is of more importance than the lives of others.


429 posted on 04/18/2007 8:02:32 PM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: pa mom

In fact, I don’t think a lot of them see others as truly as real the way they see themselves. We are just characters in a videogame....we may cause them pain, but we aren’t truly alive to them.


430 posted on 04/18/2007 8:11:01 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Sad, isn’t it. And that leads to his writings. I don’t think any of us will be able to really understand them. Because they are the rantings of evil.

I have posted this many times in the last two days. We can never be totally safe. We cannot buy into the current craze “fix-every-problem-itis”. The only true security is with God.


431 posted on 04/18/2007 8:16:54 PM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: starlifter

An english major who hates America. Who woulda thunk that one?


432 posted on 04/18/2007 8:41:11 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: pa mom

Amen to that.


433 posted on 04/18/2007 8:46:37 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: nonliberal

And then there were others like me (I was a History undergrad, switched to English in Grad school) who love America....


434 posted on 04/18/2007 8:47:28 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Everyone in the English department where I went to school was either an aging hippie, an aging Black Panther or a lesbian.


435 posted on 04/19/2007 5:11:45 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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