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22 dead in Va. Tech shooting rampage
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671/?GT1=9246 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 9:34:30 AM PDT by Shade2

BREAKING NEWS MSNBC staff and news service reports Updated: less than 1 minute ago BLACKSBURG, Va. - At least 22 people were killed Monday in a shooting rampage on the Virginia Tech campus, police said. They said the gunman was among the dead.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; blacksburg; crime; shooting; vatech; virginia; virginiatech
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To: El Gato
The Tower Shooting by Whitman was televised live. I remember watching it in shock on the television as it was happening. At the time I was living about 100 miles South of there. At our HS we had numerous trucks with rifles and guns in the racks next to the rear window. It wasn't uncommon for someone to be cleaning a rifle in the parking lot.

It was the deer hunters/private citizens that kept Whitman pinned down because the police did not have any weapons that could reach the Tower effectively (shotguns and pistols).

161 posted on 04/16/2007 11:37:14 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: redgolum

One of the storys said it was an Engineering Building...


162 posted on 04/16/2007 11:38:28 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: EX52D

Yep, just found it.

On the other thread reports of another shooter.

This might not be over.


163 posted on 04/16/2007 11:39:15 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: britemp

‘22! Good God, that’s more than a third of the total number of people murdered with a gun every year in the UK in just this one incident’

Up to 32 now - make that half instead of a third. Let us hope it does not increase further.


164 posted on 04/16/2007 11:43:45 AM PDT by britemp
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To: britemp

Gosh with their strict gun control policies in the UK, you would think that they would have NO homicides by gun. Wouldn’t you?


165 posted on 04/16/2007 11:49:05 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: Junior; RadicalSon2
R2: When you take God out of the school system and teach these students that we evolved from animals (and there are no moral absolutes) -— we shouldn’t be surprised when they act like animals. I would be surprised if they didn’t.

J: So you're saying the churches and parents have pretty much turned over all moral teaching to the school systems? I guess that makes Christianity one of the lazier belief systems going.

Even more interesting is the idea that putting God back into the school system will prevent this sort of thing. Radical Islam puts God into not only the school system, but also the government, the police, and indeed every place they can find. Yet Radical Islam seems to produce an enormous number of nutbars willing to kill and be killed. Far more, in fact, than our decadent system seems to. What gives?

166 posted on 04/16/2007 12:07:34 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yes, that was Susanna Hupp. She is featured in my YouTube video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln2acfzkhz8.

Chucky Schumer and his pals DID NOT much care for what she had to say.


167 posted on 04/16/2007 12:09:00 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dead Dog

Maybe an Indonesian adherent of TROP..


168 posted on 04/16/2007 12:09:06 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: WannabeTurk

Go back to yours, or better yet, go to a true jihadistan like Yemen or Iran and thrust your buttocks to the sky there! Allahu fubar!


169 posted on 04/16/2007 12:12:55 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: WannabeTurk

What is this “WE” stuff? You fly the flag of Turkey on your About Page........


170 posted on 04/16/2007 12:17:33 PM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: CJ-50
We currently have a decided shortage of information about what has happened but, we already have a dreaded excess of opinion about what will happen.

When something like this happens, speculation is sure to abound. Given that several high profile incidents like this over the past five years (LA Airport shooting, Virginia sniper, Utah mall, North Carolina SUVicide) have involved T.R.O.P. operatives, it's only natural that one would suspect their involvement.
171 posted on 04/16/2007 12:19:47 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: El Gato
OMG!!! Jack Thompson was on Fox News as a specialist and expert on school shootings....attorney....this isn’t the same Jack Thompson that JimRob had to ban and he threatened to sue all Freepers. This Jack Thompson is nuttier than a fruitcake.
172 posted on 04/16/2007 12:21:18 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"He seemed like such a nice boy."

Quiet, kept mostly to himself...

173 posted on 04/16/2007 12:21:48 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: britemp

I read somewhere that in the UK, the number of gunpoint robberies and breakins has tripled since the new gun laws went into effect..........


174 posted on 04/16/2007 12:22:21 PM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: processing please hold; stephenjohnbanker

My cousin is ok, just got an e-mail from him. Yes, this did indeed happen on his campus, but not in a nearby building. They had the faculty in lock-down for a while, but he’s at home with his family now.


175 posted on 04/16/2007 12:23:00 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Your level of discourse is impressive. *SIGH*


176 posted on 04/16/2007 12:24:37 PM PDT by WannabeTurk
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Why does it have to be all or nothing... with all things conservative? Most other countries have a much lower homicide rate than the USA. That is just a fact. Why is that?

Just because Canada,UK,Australia, etc don’t have a murder rate equal to zero does not mean there are not lessons to be learned here. The USA is not even in the same ballpark when homicide rates are compared with other first world nations.


177 posted on 04/16/2007 12:24:45 PM PDT by willi76
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To: CJ-50

The quickest way to limit a “dreaded excess of opinion” is for officials to supply accurate information to the public.

They tend not to...and the result is speculation. That is healthy.


178 posted on 04/16/2007 12:25:32 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Dead Corpse

Good news, D C ! Thanks for the heads up!


179 posted on 04/16/2007 12:28:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Red Badger

“I read somewhere that in the UK, the number of gunpoint robberies and breakins has tripled since the new gun laws went into effect..........”

I read the same.


180 posted on 04/16/2007 12:29:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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