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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: word_warrior_bob

I found the use of the words “charlatans” and “debauchery” pretty interesting. My kid’s in college and he wouldn’t think to use those words, in fact, I’d say those two words are not “regulars” in the average college students vocab. If there’s any significance in using those two words is beyond me.


4,761 posted on 04/17/2007 10:03:06 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Quix

RE: When you have studied them for 45+ years

Let me guess, you’re a big Quigley fan, and have also read Skousen’s “The Naked Capitalist” among other “tomes?”

And there are a cabal of Atlantacists who engineered the World Wars. Or, not ....

Ever hang out with Lyndon Larouche?


4,762 posted on 04/17/2007 10:11:39 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: duckman

He was an English major. I was a english/econ major. I doubt this is it. (I use my fingers to add)


4,763 posted on 04/17/2007 10:17:58 AM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: LexHoskin

“Investigators believe Cho at some point had been taking medication for depression. They are examining Cho’s computer for more evidence.” From the following link:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-070417vtech-shootings,0,1137509.story?coll=chi-homepagepromo440-fea


4,764 posted on 04/17/2007 10:19:57 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: dawn53

As a college senior English major, those words shouldn’t be a reach for him at all.


4,765 posted on 04/17/2007 10:20:51 AM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Wonder if Ismael Ax is his screen name on some website?? Maybe he frequented Islamic websites?

Pray for W and Va Tech


4,766 posted on 04/17/2007 10:21:51 AM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Wonder if Ismael Ax is his screen name on some website?? Maybe he frequented Islamic websites?

Pray for W and Va Tech


4,767 posted on 04/17/2007 10:21:54 AM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: RecallMoran

Oh, I’m sure that most college students know the meaning and have them in their vocab when called for. But it’s just not the sort of word you use in “everyday” language to describe your classmates.


4,768 posted on 04/17/2007 10:23:59 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: livluvlaf729
M. E. H. Ismail, The zeros of basic Bessel functions the functions J+ax (x) and the associated orthogonal polynomials, J. Math. Anal. Appl. 86 (1982), 1-19.

Not something you'd really expect an English major to identify with, however demented he might be.

I think the "Ismail Ax" is some sort of gamer tag or reference.

4,769 posted on 04/17/2007 10:25:09 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy; Halls
I’m getting real tired of dozens or hundreds of LEO standing outside while shots are being fired inside.

I'm sorry, but you don't know whether what you SAW was the totality of what was HAPPENING at the time. You may have seen many LEO outside, but what makes you think there wasn't ALSO two or three or twenty SWAT teams working INSIDE the buildings at the same time? You have seen limited still photos and video, perhaps all taken from one or two sides of the building, and it is way too early to KNOW what actually went down. Perhaps 10 SWAT teams penetrated the building from the back side and were sweeping the building when those photos were taken. Perpahs the LEO you saw outside were just there to (a) prevent any further bystanders from going in or getting in harm's way, (b) to receive hostages who were let out or escaped, and (c) to intercept the perp if he managed to elude the SWAT teams inside.

You have no idea what the tactical plan or actual actions were by looking at a few still photos and one cell phone video from one angle on the building.

Additionally, you are complaining about seeing all these LEO outside.... but if you had seen video with NO LEO visible (i.e., if they had ALL stormed the building and none had stayed outside), they I'm sure you would be posting that you're "tired of seeing cell phone videos of these situations with no LEO anywhere in sight; if a kid with a cell phone knew it was happening and could get there to film it, why couldn't LEO get there??"

The amount of second-guessing from armchair quarterbacks on this thread is annoying, to say the least.

4,770 posted on 04/17/2007 10:27:09 AM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: livluvlaf729
“M. E. H. Ismail, The zeros of basic Bessel functions the functions J+ax (x) and the associated orthogonal polynomials, J. Math. Anal. Appl. 86 (1982), 1-19.”

If there is one thing I know about English majors, it is that they would not get within a country mile of the “basic Bessel functions” or anything else that has so much as a whiff of mathematics around it.

4,771 posted on 04/17/2007 10:28:36 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: Smokin' Joe

I’m not sure where the story came that he had his face “blown off”. I can’t find that in the official press conference information. So maybe it was an exaggeration.

People were looking for a reason they didn’t identify the suspect, and it could be they didn’t WANT to leak his identity because they wanted to question other people he might have worked with.

They may have only released his identity today because the gun shop owner leaked it last night to the internet and it was gaining wide circulation.


4,772 posted on 04/17/2007 10:29:21 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Smokin' Joe
Do you drive? without a license? No money, no credit card? No ID? No proof of insurance? You must be walking--and not far.

Okay. So, it's a guy thing then. My husband always says a guy will always know where those things are. Yes, I walk. No. I didn't drive until recently. I only starting carrying those things around when I started to drive. But if I'm going somewhere where I don't need money and I'm not the driver... But, then again, someone is always home where I live, so I don't need keys. I didn't say it wasn't unusual for most people. Just that some people do go out that way and aren't trying to hide their identity.

4,773 posted on 04/17/2007 10:29:53 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Fight global warming. Eat a cow.)
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To: null and void
Apparently it was “Ishmael Ax”

No, it was "Ismail Ax" and it was written on the inside of one of Cho's arms in red ink, not on the note. I'm not buying an Ishmael / Islam connection for this.

See this thread.

4,774 posted on 04/17/2007 10:30:51 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: dawn53

My common usage of “50 cent words” was probably higher then than after 15 years of changing diapers and running behind tricycles.

He was apparently told to get counseling from his creative writing teacher.

Rush is probably about the template from the media being about gun control, american unhappiness, rich kids and bullying, etc.

My heart is with the mothers and the dads. I can’t even imagine...


4,775 posted on 04/17/2007 10:32:13 AM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
They may have only released his identity today because the gun shop owner leaked it last night to the internet and it was gaining wide circulation.

The gun shop guy just wrote about a "Mr. Cho." I don't think his actual identity was online anywhere before they released it.

4,776 posted on 04/17/2007 10:33:23 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times
No, it was "Ismail Ax" and it was written on the inside of one of Cho's arms in red ink, not on the note. I'm not buying an Ishmael / Islam connection for this.

Time will tell, our 'betters' may not...

4,777 posted on 04/17/2007 10:41:14 AM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: All

FOX News knows this guy purchased a Glock and yet they keep showing stock photos of a couple of SIG Sauers.

Nice research.


4,778 posted on 04/17/2007 10:42:21 AM PDT by MrCFdovnh
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To: Howlin
Well stated.

I have seen little mourning for the victims by the media. Maybe I missed it. But a great deal of blame. And many false statements. Allegedly Geraldo, for example, already all but accused some innocent guy - I read this somewhere here. Didn't he learn anything from the Duke case?

I feel sad for the victims and their families. Such a horrible crime.

4,779 posted on 04/17/2007 10:43:26 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: GOP_1900AD; All
WRONG!
WRONG!
WRONG!
WRONG!
ON ALL
COUNTS!

I NEVER read any of those publications. Interestingly.

As I have noted many times . . . I was in charge of the university library's Special Collections Dept for 4 years from 1965-1969. We were one of 2 university libraries in the whole US OF A which collected extreme left stuff all the way over to extreme right stuff--from well known groups as well as a plethera of fringe groups.

The ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT folks way back before that but certainly then were stating in very boring house-organ [in-house publicationis] what they were going to do. There was also a sprinkling of original, primary source stuff from the authors and members of such organizational stuff.

They were fairly plain spoken about the global government goals. It's just that key statements were buried amidst a bunch of chaff and in deadly boring organizational publications which rarely saw the light of day outside of the organizations.

The organizations were international trade organizations; UN organizations; international aid organizations; international labor organizations and the like plus various political think tank organizations.

Your fantasies about my studied background on the topic just happen to be absolutely WRONG.

It's somewhat plausible that your assumptions about the whole topic are just as WRONG.

4,780 posted on 04/17/2007 10:43:41 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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