Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall
(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...
I was much closer to believing in puppet masters after I read the book BCCI and the Whitewater stuff done by the WSJ.
Be careful, and don’t get SMERSHed.
I believe it is Field Training Officers (3 years) and above now....only 1/4 of the officers pass the training with SWAT.
LAPD manual...
556.90 USE OF THE URBAN POLICE RIFLE AND SHOTGUN SLUG AMMUNITION. In performing its mission to protect the people of this City, the Department equips officers with weapons sufficient to control most field situations. In determining the type of weapons and ammunition routinely carried by field officers, a careful balance must be achieved between our urban setting and the degree of danger we face. For anticipated events which pose a higher degree of danger, special units are equipped and trained to use more powerful weapons consistent with the anticipated threat level. However, unanticipated field situations occasionally arise which require immediate access to specialized weapons in order to control the situation and protect the community as well as the officers responding to the incident.
In recognition of this need, the Department has authorized the field deployment of special weapons and ammunition. However, these weapons and ammunition may only be deployed by specially trained field officers including trained supervisors, and absent an immediate threat of death or serious bodily injury which precludes waiting for approval, supervisory approval is required prior to using these weapons and ammunition during a field situation.
The Urban Police Rifle (UPR) and Shotgun Slug Ammunition (SSA) may be used to assist officers who respond to an unplanned and spontaneous incident involving a suspect(s) who is wearing protective body armor, believed to be armed with or who has immediate access to a high powered weapons, or who is believed to be armed and situated in a distant or fortified location which affords the suspect(s) a tactically superior position. The use of UPRs and SSA is intended to minimize the risk of death or serious bodily injury to officers as well as members of the community. Generally, the UPR should not be deployed indoors because of the weapon’s penetration capability. Though the deployment of the UPR and SSA is usually restricted to spontaneous events, the Chief of Police or the Department Commander may authorize their deployment on a pre-planned basis for station defense, in conjunction with a Mobile Field Force or in other extraordinary, high-risk emergency events. In every case, deployment of the UPR and SSA shall be in accordance with the Department’s Use of Force Policy including all of its reporting requirements.
(Japanese news media is also hot on this story, covering the reactions of many Japanese students who were on campus there.) No shortage of them having second thoughts about safety in American hinterland. Which is really said--the numbers of Japanese studying in the USA were dwindling already due to perceptions of lack of safety, which all of us here have tried to counter. Who could blame them now (at least those up there in the beautiful hills of Virginia today)?
I have no idea what that's about; just wondered if anyone else heard it.
My buddy told me he heard there were 10 arrests....but I havent heard that anywhere else.
Sure are a lot of myths out there.
Maybe the authorities are mum so as not to tip off other suspects.
That was one of the scariest events in recent memory.
Robocriminal.
Another point...police departments across the country better be in front of local HS’s and Colleges tomorrow as some nutball might try to copycat today.
Wow. How’d they get that drawing up so fast? (Unless it’s a page from a manual somewhere.)
A page from the PLA Youth Army handbook no doubt.
They could be backtracking this story all over the globe, thus the paucity of solid information.
Yep. Nutballs or Phase II.
They will have such graphics, full scale models, you name it, (computer graphics) out for the viewing audience within 12 hours if need be. I have never seen anything like it in the States.
Ten arrests? That’s one to follow up on.
Really?
She came to Virginia Tech from rural Rappahannock County and was majoring in animal and poultry sciences.
He came to Blacksburg from a small town outside Augusta, Ga., and was a popular leader in the Tech marching band and a resident adviser.
This year, Emily Jane Hilscher and Ryan Clark lived next door to each other on the fourth floor of West Ambler Johnston Hall — in rooms 4040 and 4042.
And yesterday morning, they may have been the first of more than 30 people murdered in a shooting event that is unparalleled in the history of U.S. colleges and universities.
Authorities last night were still trying to settle on a motive for the early-morning attacks, which left two dead at 7:15 a.m. on the fourth floor of the residence hall where Hilscher and Clark lived, and at least 30 others gunned down across campus in Norris Hall two hours later.
That’s interesting. A lot of the graphic artists I know are Asian. Maybe pictures tend to compliment the language form.
It makes no sense to allow college students, most of whom do not qualify as adults, despite what the law has decided, to carry guns into a school.
And why should we trust school authorities with weapons? Most of them are liberal and probably support gun control, as in, the average citizen should not have one. More to the point, that profession is no more exempt from outrageous behavior than any other.
Civil society has been in a meltdown for the last 40+ years and we're living with the horrific results in all areas.
Heartbreaking.
Do you drive? without a license? No money, no credit card? No ID? No proof of insurance? You must be walking--and not far.
No mailbox key (not going to the post office?).
just about every kid I know who can afford one or who can talk their parents into adding them to their phone plan has a cell phone, and aside from being dropped in the toilet, they are practically part of them, and nothing they would leave behind. (Well, not a second time, but they are usually over that by the end of high school). Students at Virginia Tech not "wired in"?
Unthinkable.
Apparently the perp remembered to pack plenty of ammo and a couple of firearms, chains and locks for the doors, but in the rush to get out the door forgot his walllet, even though there were a couple of hours between the first shootings and the rest. Hmmmm. Maybe there was more than one.
Just a thought.
Most guys don't leave home without it. Only rarely does anyone who drives go anywhere without some form of ID, at least a license, registration, and insurance card. Nothing?
Not even keys?
Nope, nothing strange here, just move along folks.
Interesting thought. It reeks, like the Port Arthur Massacre.
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