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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: Species8472

I am willing to predict this will happen again soon as since it was a successful attack the terrorists will probably make it part of their teachings.


3,441 posted on 04/16/2007 6:28:09 PM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: RDTF

NP :)


3,442 posted on 04/16/2007 6:28:15 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: swatbuznik

That would translate into Bush being right and you know they will never allow that. This will be a lone gunman who if we had gun laws would have never been able to do this.

Pray for W and Va Tech


3,443 posted on 04/16/2007 6:28:15 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: dawn53

The Hui nationalities is one of official 55 “Minority Nationalities” in the PRC. Basically the only thing that distinguishes the Hui people from the Han people (Chinese) is their practice of Islam. While we most often think of the Muslims of China living in Northwest China, the Hui are scattered throughout China. If they aren’t wearing their Muslim attire, you really couldn’t distinguish them from the Han Chinese.

Yep, 2% of 1,300,000,000 billion people is 26,000,000. I’m not sure what the percentage of the population is Hui.


3,444 posted on 04/16/2007 6:28:38 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: redgolum

Did you catch the reports that he was a (PRC) Chinese national here on a student visa?


3,445 posted on 04/16/2007 6:29:10 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: HockeyPop
We have a tendency to expect the cavalry and delta force to magically appear.

Yep, a desire for the security and response time of some kind of police state...without any additional costs or loss of freedoms of course :)

3,446 posted on 04/16/2007 6:30:02 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Jedidah

“There is no way to stop a determined killer from creating havoc in a public place.”

Sure there is.....

One...
JUST ONE(!!!) legally armed student could have ENDED this situation, and saved DOZENS of lives.

Instead, this was a Liberal-Mandated “Gun-Free Slaughter Zone”, and a student with the stones to actually CARRY a legal weapon on Campus was being threatened with EXPULSION...

The lesson her, YET AGAIN, is that:

LIBERALISM KILLS


3,447 posted on 04/16/2007 6:30:53 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: Paved Paradise
I agree. Certainly the girlfriend has friends who would have know who the Asian boyfriend was. Most crimes of passion seem to end with the killer committing suicide at the crime scene following the shootings. This one seems odd in that two hours later he’s back shooting up the school.

I’d think by now forensics could say if the bullets that killed the girlfriend and RA were one in the same as the other 32 victims.

Prayers out to all.

3,448 posted on 04/16/2007 6:31:09 PM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: tcrlaf; milford421

Milford, do you recall the forged visa’s from a couple weeks ago, was that in Singapore?

I remember reading it, but not all the details.


3,449 posted on 04/16/2007 6:31:20 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (With God for a pilot, anything is possible.......!!!)
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To: Jedidah
There is no way to stop a determined killer from creating havoc in a public place, unless we live under martial law.

Or you let law abiding citizens carry arms for their own defense, and defense of an innocent 3rd party.

ARe you another anti-gunner?

3,450 posted on 04/16/2007 6:31:21 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: Windcatcher

WTF? He’s here only eight months, and in that time phones in three bomb scares to test security, gets two illicit firearms, an ammo vest (and possibly Kevlar), plus a stack of magazines and ammo?

Something is VERY wrong here. There HAS to be more to this guy.
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Yep.


3,451 posted on 04/16/2007 6:31:29 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Just heard that, but that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

How does a Chinese national on a student get two hand guns, and all the ammo? You need a green card to legally buy one (last I checked). I knew an Irishmen who was here on a green card who was able to buy a rifle, but only if it was shipped back home to his local gun shop.

3,452 posted on 04/16/2007 6:31:40 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: oceanview

So why did he call in the bomb threats to check security, chain the doors, have a flak jacket and file the numbers off the guns. This was not a jilted Chinese student. This was planned to the last detail.

Pray for W and Va Tech


3,453 posted on 04/16/2007 6:31:48 PM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

So an overstay on a student visa (that means illegal alien),

commits a crime and illegally buys stolen guns,

which are used to kill unarmed students,

who were legislativly disarmed and prohibited from self defense,

who were dependent on a keystone kampus kops and a dipsy college administration which were too slow to declare an alert,

which means

democrats will make us safer by disarming us.


3,454 posted on 04/16/2007 6:32:09 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: redgolum

Exactly. And that fast. It smells.


3,455 posted on 04/16/2007 6:32:27 PM PDT by RDTF (They should have put down Barbarella instead of Barbaro)
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To: glock rocks

No prob, glock rocks. Sometimes it takes a couple posts to understand what people are actually intending to convey by their words, but if we’d all assume good intentions while seeking clarifications, this forum would be a happier place.

I need to take my own advice in that regard on occasion.


3,456 posted on 04/16/2007 6:33:07 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: redgolum

there was a gun show in Roanoke County this weekend. Says Michael, he could have purchased anything he needed there with minimal background checks.

http://www.gunshows-usa.com/Promoters/C&E%20Gun%20Shows.html

hat tip: http://www.hotair.com


3,457 posted on 04/16/2007 6:33:21 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: LexHoskin; Badeye
I am not going to read through some 3000 replys so I probably may have missed the below thought...

Besides armed guards and metal detectors, my best solution is to arm the principal, vice-principal, instructors, and other bona fide employees.

My reasoning: Almost 60 years of watching the bad guys exploit weakness, they tend to target "soft targets" (no similar defense) institutions or venues.

This was the final straw. I'm a law abiding 57 year American citizen with 11 years Navy contribution and a law enforcement proponent. However, I'm thinking I may start concealed carrying here in California, with or without California's permission.

Granted, this sort of thing is not that frequent, but I'm not going to wait unitl some domestic or foreign terrorist pulls a AK-47 at my local mall. If you can't protect mine from these maniacs, then I will. There I said it, and it's on record.

BTW, BATFE, FBI, and others, my weapons are all legal within federal and CA state laws. Feel free to put me on your list. Just know that the average citizen is getting tired of seeing this. And no matter how many gun laws are imposed, the bad guys will continue to have access. The deterent? Arm all good citizens.

3,458 posted on 04/16/2007 6:33:23 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum)
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To: Mo1

I’m watching HGTV. I’ll wait until there’s more light and less heat about the Virginia Tech story. I’ll pick it up again tomorrow.


3,459 posted on 04/16/2007 6:33:29 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: gpapa

The student who did the filming is a Palestinian, a former resident of Saudi Arabia and student at Virginia Tech according to an interview with him. If I were the police I would like to talk to him for a bit. He was right outside the facility when the shooting started.

I dont imagine they will be able to find him...if they didnt hold him. He was signaling his masters...


3,460 posted on 04/16/2007 6:33:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup (.The Muzzies are hanging us with the rope we paid out to the leftists.)
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