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The Great Disconnect between the Republican Party and the Conservative Base
vanity | 12 March 2007 | Trueblackman

Posted on 03/12/2007 8:26:01 PM PDT by Trueblackman

The Great Disconnect between the Republican Party and the Conservative Base

The Republican Party better get its act together like yesterday and realize that without its Conservative base, that it will be left to wonder in the wilderness for many more years to come.

Republicans in Congress are now back in the minority after 12 years of majorities granted to them by the base who envisioned the death of big government agencies like the Departments of Education and Energy with control of the purse strings from 1994-2006 and in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush the base demanded the unabated end of the Clinton Era Tactics of manipulation federal government numbers and phony government surpluses.

Conservatives felt that Bush and company would govern like Conservatives, but after 6 years the base saw no victories as the federal government grew bigger under Bush with “No Child Left Behind” and “Medicare Part D.” Bush refused to fight for our most Conservatives Nominees allowing them to be blocked for years on end by a minority within the minority Democrats Caucus in the Senate. Bush’s “new tone” in Washington DC amounted to the abandonment of his Conservative Principals within 6 months of his first term.

Liberal Republicans like John McCain were allowed to cut deals behind close doors on Judicial Nominees, Taxes and Immigration, while the Conservatives in the Senate seem dumbfounded and refused to stop this self-proclaimed maverick and his band of merry sellouts. McCain seems to take joy in stabbing the base in the back every chance he gets, gleefully going on MSNBC to be praised by Chris Matthews, because he feels that he is somehow owed the Presidency and blames the base for his 2000 Primary defeats to George W. Bush. Now McCain wants to be the 2008 Nominee, “Sorry John, but paybacks are a bi*ch” and I will not vote for what amounts to the Republican Party’s Manchurian Candidate.

The House Managers became fat, dumb and happy and governed more like Republicrats than Conservatives and they thought that the fears of impeachment, higher taxes and liberal control of the House would be enough to rally the base to their banner again in 2006, but this time their rally cries fell on deaf ears and their majorities were lost.

The Republican Party still refuses to learn from 2006’s mid-term election defection by the base, Republicans need to realize that they live and die by the votes of the base and that any candidate that does not appeal to the base will not receive our votes. It is better to lose to a Democrat, than to elect a CINO (Conservative In Name Only).

Now as we enter the 2008 Presidential Race we have Northern Eastern Republicans like Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney trying to sell themselves to the base as having Conservative Credentials, but when one looks at their records and how they have governed, it has been anything but Conservative, yet there are those in the Republican Party who are trying to sell Giuliani as our best bet in 2008. The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principal than back a Liberal Republican IN Name Only like Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and John McCain, who will end up stabbing me in the back anyway and govern himself by poll and focus groups.

The base would rather lose on principals than win out of convenience and the leaders of the Republican Party better start realizing that.


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To: bluecollarman

Some people just don't get that voting for a RINO in order to prevent the DEM from winning is very short term thinking.


61 posted on 03/12/2007 9:05:10 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: FairOpinion

How would that be different with a RINO president?


62 posted on 03/12/2007 9:05:53 PM PDT by Vietnam Vet From New Mexico (Rock The Casbah (said the little AC130 gunship))
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To: Trueblackman

Every time I hold my nose and vote for the RINO, I, America, and the rest of the conservatives get stabbed in the back.

With this current crop I am about at the end of my patience.

Sorry but that's how I feel. I'm beyond frustrated.


63 posted on 03/12/2007 9:06:54 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: TheLion
"Nobody is shoving Romney down our throats....he is the one the left is very afraid of."

Exactly. Bears repeating.

64 posted on 03/12/2007 9:07:17 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: FairOpinion
I understand your point, but you must understand that Rudy will appoint the same kind of judges as Hillary so it's a false argument. You also have to understand that Rudy is just like Bill Clinton in the morals department. He has tons of skeletons in his closet.

Many of us have decided to not throw our principals over the side simply because our liberal dem is better than their liberal dem.

Besides, 1) The Dems WILL eventually retake the WH someday. 2) Carter gave us Reagan and Clinton gave us Bush (okay...no Reagan, but much better than Gore!).

I am personally hoping Fred Thompson will run.
65 posted on 03/12/2007 9:07:39 PM PDT by NucSubs (That's so gay.)
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To: TheLion

I wasn't aware that Romney was being shoved down our throats. It seems the biggest push is for Rudy.


66 posted on 03/12/2007 9:07:46 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: potlatch

PEROTISTAS 2008!



67 posted on 03/12/2007 9:07:58 PM PDT by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: supercat

I think Romney was right on, as to his remarks to the Schiavo case. Congress should in no way interfere with the courts. They should do some law making outside a case, perhaps. This could start a terrible precedent.


68 posted on 03/12/2007 9:08:11 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: FairOpinion

God, you are such a cheerleader.


69 posted on 03/12/2007 9:09:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: NucSubs

"Rudy will appoint the same kind of judges as Hillary "

YOURS is a false argument.

Rudy said and Ted Olson confirmed that Rudy will appoint constructionist judges like Scalia and Alito. That's why Ted Olson is supporting Rudy.


70 posted on 03/12/2007 9:09:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: Paperdoll
"I wasn't aware that Romney was being shoved down our throats."

Geez....read my post again. I said Romney is not being shoved down our throats....wonder why?

71 posted on 03/12/2007 9:10:12 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: capt. norm
Ever since W's first election in 2000 and with Republicans in control of both houses, I was waiting with bated breath for them to start cleaning up the Clinton mess.

Instead, they just let them get by with it.

Disgusting.


Exactly. Exactly right. A historic opportunity, laid to waste by OUR[sic] people.

Unconscionable.
72 posted on 03/12/2007 9:10:44 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: NucSubs

Carter and Clinton did IRREPARABLE harm to the country.


73 posted on 03/12/2007 9:11:04 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: BurtSB
Boo Whoooo I not getting my way so far.

Instead of crying about it, convince the RNC to put up candidates worth voting for. Somehow the RNC has gotta learn that my vote is precious and they need to earn my vote.

74 posted on 03/12/2007 9:11:29 PM PDT by Petruchio (Single, Available, Easy)
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To: Paperdoll; Rodney King
If a conservative doesn't win the nomination, we ALL lose.

But as Rodneyking says in #55 it would be better to lose for 4 years than the next 20, or more.

Rudy winning this election would set conservatism back so far we might never recover politically. But the Rinos would lose too. I would not vote for Rudy, but I will vote.
75 posted on 03/12/2007 9:11:38 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Trueblackman

btt


76 posted on 03/12/2007 9:12:13 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Delphinium

Howdy!!


77 posted on 03/12/2007 9:12:25 PM PDT by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: TheLion


Oh, sorry. Guess I've been online too long today. :o)


78 posted on 03/12/2007 9:12:32 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: BurtSB
Boo Whoooo I not getting my way so far. So I 'll show you and not vote so Hillary can get elected and then she will shut down talk radio and all conservative Internet site and that will some how make your point . The logic hear is mystifying . I suspect many DU pests are feeding the fire of this type of thinking on the FR

You'll think Boo Whooo. In case you didn't notice it was the stupid Follow My Leader Blindly Republican Congressmen and Senators who have expanded Executive Branch Powers and started programs everybody would have called for the DEMs to be impeached over. But Duhh Dats OK Duh it's the Republican party doing it Duh ain't that right Rush? Duh!

Hillary Clinton even if elected in 2008 wasn't half the threat in 2000 she will be if elected thanks to those blithering idiots people elected just because they were Republicans and never them being being stupid liberal ones at that. Now that's something to cry about. Sold out by the Liberal Traitors within the GOP elected. Please excuse me while I refuse to elect or re-elect more of the same.

79 posted on 03/12/2007 9:12:37 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: Tribune7
"Dubya did listen on judges, which has been my big thing."

It should be everyone's big thing. It's all about the judges.

80 posted on 03/12/2007 9:13:03 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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