Posted on 02/02/2007 7:22:49 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Muslims "seem to be about to take over Europe,” which has "given up” efforts to maintain its culture, said world-renowned Middle Eastern and Islamic scholar Bernard Lewis.
Lewis, a professor of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton, told the Jerusalem Post that soon the only important question regarding Europe’s future would be, "Will it be an Islamized Europe or Europeanized Islam?"
Lewis, whose many books include the recent "What Went Wrong?: The Clash Between Islam and Modernity in the Middle East,” said the Islamic takeover of Europe would be assisted by "immigration and democracy." Instead of fighting the threat, he added, Europeans had given up.
"Europeans are losing their own loyalties and their own self-confidence," he said. "They have no respect for their own culture." Europeans had "surrendered" on every issue with regard to Islam in a mood of "self-abasement, political correctness and multi-culturalism.”
Turning to the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran, Lewis said the Cold War philosophy of Mutual Assured Destruction, which prevented the former Soviet Union and the United States from using nuclear weapons, would not apply to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's regime. "For him, Mutual Assured Destruction is not a deterrent, it is an inducement. If [Iran's ruling ayatollahs] kill large numbers of their own people, they are doing them a favor. They are giving them a quick, free pass to heaven. I find all that very alarming.”
Lewis said Israel and the West should work to strengthen moderate forces within Iran via an aggressive propaganda campaign.
"All the evidence is that the regime is extremely unpopular with their own people," he told the Post. "I am told that the Israeli daily [radio] program in Persian is widely listened to all over Iran with rapt attention."
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Radical Islam is an insane murder cult.
Moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
"I think there are moderate Muslims, they are even the large majority, but I do not believe there is a moderate Islam,"
Philippe de Villiers, head of the anti-immigrant Movement for France (MPF) party
Hello Swede. I am from Norway and I am sure this whole thing is going to end in a bloodbath in the end and the Muslims will be chased out of Europe.
The problem of "terrorism" as a adjunct of Radical Islam is likely going to be more intractable, and my guess is that it's going to be a much larger problem within Islamic societies than outside them.
Isn't most of Europe going through either stagnant or declining (native)population growth while Muslims are flooding in and procreating at an average of six children per woman?
No, I don't need to see things from their point of view. Their religion declared war on us, we didn't declare war on them. It just so happened that there was no specific return address to respond to the attacks (yes, plural), and Saddam was as good a target as we could find.
So called moderate or secular Muslims are posers, when it comes right down to making the choice between the terrorists and western civilization, they side with the terrorists. Islam has robbed them of the ability to think rationally.
My family almost experienced the barbarism that defines Islam on July 7, 2005, London. My son missed his train from Gloucester station because he had over slept, or he might have been among the dead.
you seem to be blind to what has happened in Europe (think the riots in France) and what is happening in America.
we must kick all non-citizen Muslims out NOW.
or we are doomed.
"Hello Swede. I am from Norway and I am sure this whole thing is going to end in a bloodbath in the end and the Muslims will be chased out of Europe."
- Greetings to Norway from Gothenburg, Sweden!
Personally, I think it would be very difficult to chase all Muslims out of Europe or to kill them all. Even with the resources Hitler disposed of and his control over large parts of Europe, he didn't manage to murder all of the Jews, even though many of them lost their lives in the 1930's and 1940's.
Furthermore, 9/11 and other such acts of terror doesn't provide any non-Muslim with the right to kill innocent Muslims.
I think Europe ought to stop importing immigrants from Asia and Africa, whether they're Muslims or not. Immigrants living here at the moment who don't behave we ought to send back.
Even though European countries presently are restrictive concerning immigration from Africa and Asia and send criminal elements back, I think we should be even more restrictive. Concerning government policies PER SE and the work carried out by many authorities, things look better than they did some decades ago but it's still not enough.
Politicians apparently are slow learners.
Since you're 23 years old and apparently unmarried, there are some nice young ladies in my church who might be open to corresponding with a Christian gentleman from overseas. I wouldn't mind playing matchmaker, tee hee.
Islamists have declared war on the west. It is proclaimed from Mosques all over the world. Melanie Phillips has distributed tape recordings from inside Mosques in London, calling for jihad against the west and hanging of homosexuals.
What I understand about Islam is that the indoctrination runs so deep that it expunges all possibility of rational thought. Just when you think a Muslim believer is westernized, the emotional hatred of Islam surfaces. The NYT ran a frontpage article about the Sunnis attacking the Shiites in Detroit over the execution of Saddam Hussein. There is no point in trying to use reasoning skills to explain irrational thought.
"The problem of "terrorism" as a adjunct of Radical Islam is likely going to be more intractable, and my guess is that it's going to be a much larger problem within Islamic societies than outside them."
I agree.
I am optimistic regarding the possibility of infiltrating islamofascism.
Although Israel, undeniably, has been exposed to succesful deeds of terror lately, its secret service has in fact been very efficient despite being a tiny nation existing IN the middle of Muslim Middle East itself.
Europe and the US might anew experience acts of Muslim terrorism on their own soil, but I doubt they will increase from year to year or that they will gain support among large numbers of European Muslims.
Furthermore, I agree Islamic Theocracy never has been a rational economic system.
I don't think every interpretation of Islam at hand is opposed to economical development and technological progress, but in many Muslim countries religious leaders are concerned only with political/social control and influence and blame the West for any shortcoming in the area of economy.
Instead of trying to establish good relations to the West, which would promote trade and development, they incite poor people in the street to violent protests against the US, the Danish Mohammed caricatures and such things.
Like Hitler said; "How fortunate for leaders that men do not think."
"Islamists have declared war on the west. It is proclaimed from Mosques all over the world. Melanie Phillips has distributed tape recordings from inside Mosques in London, calling for jihad against the west and hanging of homosexuals."
I am aware these things exist and I believe the West must be vigilant.
However, these maniacs do not represent the whole of the Muslim community (if there now is any such community at all other than one in-name-only).
Another aspect of what is going on in Mosques is that Imams and other Muslim leaders who condemn terrorism often receive threats from Islamofascists. This is the ugly face of Islamofacism, yes, but it doesn't make the majority of Muslims Islamofascists.
You make your mistake when you try to separate the religion of Islam from the politics of Islam. Islam is a political system first and foremost, religion is the stimulus and the glue that is used to control and drive the movement forward. A Muslim cannot pick and choose which parts of the Koran to believe and support because the current of hatred runs throughout and the political goal of conquering and subjugating the infidel is foremost.
I would have to challenge a so called moderate Muslim to tell me what part of the Koran he believes, if he does not believe in Sharia law and hating and subjugating the infidel. What is left?
I was just thinking that if a so called moderate Muslim rejects Sharia law and the congquering and subjugation of the infidel, all they may as well convert to Judaism, because everything else Mohammed adopted from the Jews.
i think it might have been a steyn article on demography
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