Thank God for that, some adults want a spanking....blech.
I don't know what the deal is with these folks, but the idea of losing her cell phone or not seeing her boyfriend for a few days puts my teen right in line.
First you have to APPLY disipline. Talk comes later.
"time-outs,” removal of privileges, yelling and spanking."
Most effective: spanking
Least effective: "removal of privileges"
Basically, it's possible that these parents dropped the ball from day one, only to have the problem blow up in their faces a few years down the road.
Thank you, and well done liberal parents!
The situation is as described by Machiavelli. Once the ruler tries to begin by being beneficent the game is over and will play out only one way. Blame Skinner and the other enlightened Liberals.
"more than 38 percent were using the same discipline methods their own parents used on them as a child."
The Dr. Spock method, I'm sure, as evidenced by the amount of "time-outing" and "removing privilege" (both of the same ilk).
I disagree on the spanking issue if only because my parents beat the crap out of me and the only thing I learned was not to get caught. I have never laid a hand on my kids. They are now in their late teens and, unlike me when I was a teen, they have never really done anything deserving of the woodshed. My approach was consistant standards of behavior and firm, immediate, and consistant consequences for failure to meet those standards.
Discipline sure worked for me. When my Dad said "Get TO Bed" you moved! If you walked a bit to slow you got a shoe right in the ass!
I think my mom disciple my brother more than me sometime I need little spanking to straghting me out LOL!
“But we strongly suspect that both yelling and spanking might be underreported, because we know when parents perceive their methods are not working, as one-third reported, then emotions can quickly escalate,” she said.
"Barkin and colleagues think pediatricians should address discipline when parents bring their children to the doctor’s office for visits.
“Discipline is a central element of what parents do every day, and it’s important to develop systems to support parents so that they can apply positive parenting to improve outcomes in children,” Barkin told LiveScience.com."
I smell condoning the weak-kneed approaches - "escalate", "doc should be the snitch", and "positive parenting", all hallmarks of the Dr. Spock wieny push-over methods.
Undisciplined parents will have undisciplined kids. These are emotionally wimpy parents who can't spare the effort to control their kids and we all suffer because of their slackness.
Time out my ass, all three of my kids had to drop and give me 20 when I needed their undivided attention. When my oldest was 15 all I had to do was point at a wall and he would walk over to it and put his nose against it, even in public. Needless to say, he only pushed it to that point once in public, and the embarrassment precluded that again. Only spanked him twice when he was a wee lad. The other two kids know that I am not playing and they do not challenge me or their Mother. We do not have to raise or voices or get angry to get their attention.
As a teacher of 30 students per class, I reflect on the problems that parents can not control their children. They and the school system expect one teacher to deal with these children, whom parents can not control and expect one teacher to deal with them within an hour and a half everyday. The solution is always to blame the teacher who comes prepared to teach and have to put up with the same kids who tell the teacher to "shut up", because they can as it worked on the parents.
Parental discipline is one problem.
There's another problem looming in the background: a whole culture that teaches kids to question and disrespect authority. They get it from movies, they get it from music, they get it from their friends, they get it in school, even from some of the teachers. They even see it on bumper stickers.
It used to be that society disapproved of bad conduct, as well as parents. Now, a large part of society encourages bad conduct. It doesn't help.
Discipline is important but cannot stand alone. Parents need to teach their kids right from wrong. They also need to teach them why right is right and wrong is wrong.
Even when I was growing up I had friends who said they couldn't go out because they were in trouble. "What did you do wrong?" "I got caught."
Dr. Spock - thank the gods, he is taking a dirt nap - was extremely wrong.
All actions deserve an opposite and equal reaction. Force and threat of force are good methods to deal with unruly behavior. As a child grows so does the ability to decipher right from wrong, and that bad behavior would be rewarded with a strong reaction.
< clue > It's the TV! < /clue >
Gotta show the kids love too. That way they have a lot farther to fall if they do something wrong.
My son is great. And we haven't ever had to spank him. Still early, though. He is 10 years old.
Also, my wife spends a lot of time talking with my son and helping him resolve his day to day issues. That way he knows that there is justice and fairness -- makes following the straight and narrow that much easier.
I feared my parents and the badness they could lay upon me.