Posted on 01/09/2007 3:03:21 PM PST by presidio9
If you think youre the only parent struggling to rear an unruly child destined to become a careless member of the society, think again. Almost one-third of parents believe their disciplining styles are ineffective.
In a survey of more than 2,000 parents of children between the ages of 2 and 11, researchers for the first time examined four common ways of disciplining kids time-outs, removal of privileges, yelling and spanking.
More than 45 percent of the parents reported using time-outs as a disciplinary action. Almost 42 percent removed their childs privileges, followed by 13 percent who resorted to yelling and 9 percent who opted to spank their children, the researchers report in the January issue of the journal Clinical Pediatrics.
Almost 31 percent of participants reported they believed their methods were not effective, and more than 38 percent were using the same discipline methods their own parents used on them as a child.
There was actually an inverse relationship between self-reports of yelling at children and perceived effectiveness of discipline, said lead study author Shari Barkin, a physician at the Monroe Carell Jr. Childrens Hospital at Vanderbilt. But we strongly suspect that both yelling and spanking might be underreported, because we know when parents perceive their methods are not working, as one-third reported, then emotions can quickly escalate, she said.
Barkin and colleagues think pediatricians should address discipline when parents bring their children to the doctors office for visits.
Discipline is a central element of what parents do every day, and its important to develop systems to support parents so that they can apply positive parenting to improve outcomes in children, Barkin told LiveScience.com.
In this study, we altered the manner in which we asked families about discipline," she explained. "This created a shared dialogue rather than a lecture."
Thank God for that, some adults want a spanking....blech.
I don't know what the deal is with these folks, but the idea of losing her cell phone or not seeing her boyfriend for a few days puts my teen right in line.
First you have to APPLY disipline. Talk comes later.
"time-outs, removal of privileges, yelling and spanking."
Most effective: spanking
Least effective: "removal of privileges"
Basically, it's possible that these parents dropped the ball from day one, only to have the problem blow up in their faces a few years down the road.
Thank you, and well done liberal parents!
I tell my son his Nintendo Gamecube is going away for a week and the boy becomes a saint.
Spankings work best. You never forget your spankings and what you did to deserve it. Time outs don't work, my sister's girls are living proof. The ceaseless whining is enough to make your head explode. I wasn't allowed to whine and now I know why.
The situation is as described by Machiavelli. Once the ruler tries to begin by being beneficent the game is over and will play out only one way. Blame Skinner and the other enlightened Liberals.
"more than 38 percent were using the same discipline methods their own parents used on them as a child."
The Dr. Spock method, I'm sure, as evidenced by the amount of "time-outing" and "removing privilege" (both of the same ilk).
In order for discipline to be effective, it must be consistent. In other words, the parents must be disciplined in order for them to instill any discipline in their children.
My wife and I use the same methods that have worked for thousands of years: consistently reward good behavior and punish bad behavior. If applied consistenly, ie, with discipline, it works every time.
I disagree on the spanking issue if only because my parents beat the crap out of me and the only thing I learned was not to get caught. I have never laid a hand on my kids. They are now in their late teens and, unlike me when I was a teen, they have never really done anything deserving of the woodshed. My approach was consistant standards of behavior and firm, immediate, and consistant consequences for failure to meet those standards.
Discipline sure worked for me. When my Dad said "Get TO Bed" you moved! If you walked a bit to slow you got a shoe right in the ass!
Rosie want to know if she heard somebody say "spanking."
I think my mom disciple my brother more than me sometime I need little spanking to straghting me out LOL!
Amen to that. I actually can't remember the last time I spanked my kids. All I have to do is give them the "look," and they know they have about 1 millisecond to get their act together. It's rare that I even have to use the "look" anymore because they know where the line is and they damn sure know better than to cross it.
But we strongly suspect that both yelling and spanking might be underreported, because we know when parents perceive their methods are not working, as one-third reported, then emotions can quickly escalate, she said.
"Barkin and colleagues think pediatricians should address discipline when parents bring their children to the doctors office for visits.
Discipline is a central element of what parents do every day, and its important to develop systems to support parents so that they can apply positive parenting to improve outcomes in children, Barkin told LiveScience.com."
I smell condoning the weak-kneed approaches - "escalate", "doc should be the snitch", and "positive parenting", all hallmarks of the Dr. Spock wieny push-over methods.
Totally depends on the kid.
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