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Teachers emphasize the Indians' Side
Associated Press ^ | 11-21-2006 | Ana Beatriz Cholo

Posted on 11/21/2006 5:51:54 PM PST by Vinny

LONG BEACH, Calif. - Teacher Bill Morgan walks into his third-grade class wearing a black Pilgrim hat made of construction paper and begins snatching up pencils, backpacks and glue sticks from his pupils. He tells them the items now belong to him because he "discovered" them. The reaction is exactly what Morgan expects: The kids get angry and want their things back.

Morgan is among elementary school teachers who have ditched the traditional Thanksgiving lesson, in which children dress up like Indians and Pilgrims and act out a romanticized version of their first meetings.

He has replaced it with a more realistic look at the complex relationship between Indians and white settlers.

Morgan said he still wants his pupils at Cleveland Elementary School in San Francisco to celebrate Thanksgiving. But "what I am trying to portray is a different point of view."

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To: Vinny

Here I thought "ignorant teacher" was an oxymoran...


21 posted on 11/21/2006 6:28:26 PM PST by Teflonic
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To: WhiteGuy

If it wasn't for the "evil" Puritans you or no one else would be here because no one had the guts to leave the Old World to start afresh in the New World.

The Founding Fathers and their generation came to a world already settled by the "evil" puritans.

The Puritans are a much-aligned group. How would you have done it better w/ your 20/20 hindsight?





22 posted on 11/21/2006 6:34:14 PM PST by Vinny (Tolerance is a device used as a prelude to a new Intolerance)
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To: Vinny
... and begins snatching up pencils, backpacks and glue sticks from his pupils. He tells them the items now belong to him because he "discovered" them.

The article actually leaves out a part before that... the teacher gave out the pencils, backpacks and glue sticks to his pupils first before taking them back :-)

23 posted on 11/21/2006 6:38:37 PM PST by American in Singapore (Bill Clinton: The Human Stain)
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To: tdewey10
What an ass. If you don't appreciate and celebrate our country you live in you should get out -- Memo to Mr. Morgan: you're a hypocrite you insult the United States yet you seem happy to enjoy the benefits of being an American.

My thoughts exactly. He's reaping the benefits of what the Pilgrims "took". He needs to go live in Sweden or some such.

24 posted on 11/21/2006 6:39:51 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Vinny

Portland, Oregon schools teaching hate too. I saw a 7 year old cheer when a museum video showed where a white merchant sailor was killed by indians when the sailors were exploring the Pacific North West.


25 posted on 11/21/2006 6:42:53 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Vinny
My girl turned 5 just the other day
The school put her on meds 'cause she 'misbehaves'
Went to the principal and I said "no way"
They tried to throw me in jail and take her away
That's when I learned my lesson--hey, I'm no fool
Don't mess with the public schools, man!
They spend more time with YOUR kids than YOU!!!

Now that crap's in her cranium
From those public schools
Heather has two mommies and diversity, too
They get them while they're young
and they change their views
Forgetting all they learned from you, man
Forgetting all they learned from you

My girl turned eight just the other day
Came home with a condom and a book about AIDS
asked "What the hell is this?"
She said "it's just for sex
We're gonna learn 'bout anal intercourse next"
She can't write her name or add two plus three
But she knows all the STDs, man...
She knows all the STDs!!!

Now that crap's in her cranium
From those public schools
Heather has two mommies and diversity, too
They get them while they're young
and they change their views
forgetting all they learned from you, man
forgetting all they learned from you

My girl came from kollege just the other day
Drove back home for Thanksgiving break
Nose and nipple rings, 10 pounds overweight
Bull dyke on her arm, said it was her date
Screamed "We killed the indians" and that "This country's a sham"
"Gave them disease and stole all their land"

It's been 5 years, and she's really changed
I called her up just the other day
I said "How's it going? Will you ever stop by?"
She said "My life partner and I just can't find the time..."
"There's a anti-Bush rally that I must go to"
sponsored by the ACLU, dad
So I can't be talking to you"
and as she hung up the phone it occured to me...
My daughter's been lost to PC, man
She's been lost to PC!!!

26 posted on 11/21/2006 6:46:22 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: nmh
At "Thanksgiving" time the Indians and Pilgrims were getting along. Also they got along for quite a few years ... was it 50 or 100 years?

That's true, until King Philip's War in the 1670's. The tribes around Cape Cod were initially quite pleased to have these powerful new friends to help defend against the larger and more aggressive neighboring tribes.

There is a book called "Mayflower" by Nathan Philbrick that came out this year or last. Despite the name, it's not just another rehash of the Pilgrim story of 1620, but actually devotes more ink to detailed exploration of the relations between the settlers and the Indians for the subsequent sixty years or so. It's more complicated than either the traditional story or the down-with-whitey version.

-ccm

27 posted on 11/21/2006 6:58:59 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: wodinoneeye
I think it was Roosevelt who said: We saved them from themselves. They were killing each other to the point of extinction.

The indians believed in the right to "conquered" lands. It was the Rules of the world at the time.

28 posted on 11/21/2006 7:04:57 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Krankor

"barbecued" potato chips.......The English had heard: "Don't eat the chips" back home. Hence, the indians got ALL the chips!!


29 posted on 11/21/2006 7:07:19 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Perhaps he should show them what happens to local white girls when they attend a Halloween block party without escorts.

Go loathe your revisionism someplace dark.

30 posted on 11/21/2006 7:12:45 PM PST by Blogatron (Equality sounds great; When do we get some?)
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To: Captainpaintball
Interesting post. Did you write that?

With the meter and the cadence of the words it sounds to me like lyrics from a song, and I'd like to hear it.

31 posted on 11/21/2006 7:24:01 PM PST by perfect stranger (Tagline tomorrow, tagline yesterday, but no tagline today.)
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To: Vinny

The rewriting of history will not be complete until all of us hate America. Then, and only then, will 'history' finally be final.


32 posted on 11/21/2006 7:39:00 PM PST by bpjam (Don't Blame Me. I Voted GOP.)
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To: Vinny

Bill Morgan IS NOT a teacher. He is an America-hating, lowlife Commie maggot. I'd love to be able to talk to this class and have them go back into the class and demand welfare and a "sovereign nation" financed by the so-called "teacher's" family.


33 posted on 11/21/2006 7:54:12 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (America! It's off with the desert BDUs and on with the lavender burqas!!!)
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To: ccmay

Thank you!

I will get that book. It's hard to find accurate books on this.


34 posted on 11/21/2006 8:02:15 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Vinny
Well, we know what liberals do.

But it's the extremes they go to in order to make their point. This is a third grade classroom. How old are the students? Nine or ten years old?

And they'd love to take over pre-school?

I don't think so!

35 posted on 11/21/2006 8:02:36 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: Vinny

If the Pilgrims had stayed with their socialist experiment, bet this teacher wouldn't have had to rewrite history about them to the young little skulls of mush he's been assigned to nurture.


36 posted on 11/21/2006 8:06:48 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: Vinny
Funny this Teacher...

unless he a full blooded Indian, native the local area he lives....

has no problem living on the "stolen" property he's screaming about

He a complete hypocrite unless he get leaves the country asap....

37 posted on 11/21/2006 8:30:05 PM PST by tophat9000 (Al-Qaidacrats =A new political party combining the anti American left and the anti Semite right)
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To: Vinny

HA....if I were teaching.....I'd walk in and start picking up the pencils, notebooks, etc......and ask the students...."Would you like to still be living in the 1600's?"


38 posted on 11/21/2006 8:36:41 PM PST by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: Vinny
Whatta goober. I wonder if he watched "Desperate Crossing: The Untold Story of Thanksgiving" on the History Channel the other night. It was quite interesting, and it certainly didn't portray the settlers in any light like he imagines. The first place they landed, they did take some seed corn they found buried in what they thought was an abandoned Indian village. They didn't know that the Indians had buried it in order to return in the Spring and plant it, and had moved somewhere else for the winter. The Nauset tribe in that area harassed them, so they moved on to a different area.

The new area, in which they landed and decided to stay, was not settled by any Indian group at the time because they'd all died a few years earlier. The made an alliance with the nearby Wampanoag tribe in order for that tribe to have some assistance against some OTHER Indian tribes. Interesting, huh? Squanto, the young Indian who served as their interpreter had been a member of the tribe that had been struck with disease, but because he and a few others had been kidnapped by Europeans a few years before, he was not there during the outbreak. He made his way back a few years later, and since no one was there, moved in with the Wampanoags. After the settlers came, he moved to live with them.

Oh, and the settlers did make good with the Nauset tribe for the seed corn they'd taken, as a payment to have a young man returned who had wandered into the area of the Nausets after having gotten lost

39 posted on 11/21/2006 8:42:11 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: ccmay

Hmmm. I wonder if that History Channel special relied on that new book about the pilgrims. It was a really good show.


40 posted on 11/21/2006 8:46:09 PM PST by SuziQ
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